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Old 07-06-2007, 09:26 PM
 
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Would this mean that Racine would be a horrible place to move to? Atlanta is not working out too well.
Beloit would be a better bet.
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Old 07-06-2007, 09:45 PM
 
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Default Drover = CONFUSED

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Those pictures are truly lovely... but neither they nor the prior long-winded editorial (next time, please just post the first couple paragraphs and a weblink to the rest) even pretend to portray a balanced picture of Beloit. They don't capture the rising crime rate, the struggling business centers, or the residential streets lined with tired old homes that have witnessed better days.

I've been in Beloit plenty enough times to see through the propaganda. I've seen the areas that are desperately trying to draw a breath or two of the "revitalization" oxygen so eloquently (and selectively) displayed and described in the prior two posts. I've seen first-hand how the interstate corridor has inhibited the downtown business district by drawing the commercial center of gravity toward the northeast fringe of the city where mom-and-pop businesses have almost no chance against the big-name corporate entities that set up shop out there to attract passing travelers. I've seen the neighborhoods full of houses longing for basic upkeep that their owners either can't afford or can't be bothered with.

None of these observations are meant to be derogatory or judgmental toward Beloit. These issues are not moral or civic failures by any stretch, and Beloit is hardly alone in struggling with them. In fact, Beloit has dealt with them better than most similar-sized post-industrial Midwest cities. As I have intoned previously in this thread, Beloit has it all over most similar-sized non-suburban Illinois cities that serve as my basis of comparison.

But an honest assessment of Beloit compels one to point out that Beloit still wrestles with basic quality-of-life issues and that there is another side to Beloit than is portrayed in the hard-core sale pitches. These are what makes Beloit "one of the armpits of Wisconsin" as the OP so colorfully describes it. And in the end, if Beloit is indeed "one of the armpits of Wisconsin," then it stands to reason that Wisconsin has precious little to be ashamed of.

Cheers,

-Drover
You are supremely confused. The crime rate in Beloit has been steadily declining, business has never been better, and have been in the downtown the past year? The progress is phenomenal, just yesterday an article in the paper talked of another old building being remolded for a small retail store, and the farmers market? Its the largest in southern Wisconsin. You are truly confused.

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Old 07-07-2007, 12:39 AM
 
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Here's an interesting article on Beloit's most famous man, Inc's Entrepreneur of the Year last year, Ken Hendricks

Create Jobs, Eliminate Waste, Preserve Value - Ken Hendricks - Entrepreneur of the Year - Beloit

some quotes from the article

It is Hendricks's obsession with jobs that has brought me to Beloit, a pretty, well-kept city equidistant from Chicago and Milwaukee

He went on to describe his crusade to restore 3,500 jobs lost in the bankruptcy of Beloit's major employer.

The plot in précis: The Beloit Corp., the world's largest manufacturer of papermaking machines, had anchored Beloit's economy for 140 years. Family owners sold the business in 1986, and in 1999 the acquirer--Harnischfeger Industries, a public company based in Milwaukee--entered Chapter 11. The Beloit Corp. closed. About 1,500 workers were cut loose; area foundries and parts makers failed; caterers, restaurants, and other businesses suffered as well. Local estimates put job losses at 3,000 to 3,500--as much as 10 percent of Beloit's population.

In four years Hendricks has acquired or helped launch nearly a dozen companies and corralled them in Beloit. He has lured many others with attractive rents and custom modifications to buildings. Those businesses now employ about 1,400 people. Local companies started by Hendricks before the Beloit Corp.'s demise account for another 750 jobs

I was particularly impressed by the variety of industries represented in the rescued plant. And I liked that his focus on growth companies didn't neglect blue-collar jobs in favor of white but created more of both, with an emphasis on opportunities for the socially and educationally disadvantaged. As Hendricks talked I wondered: Might this be a model for how U.S. industrial cities can thrive in a global service and information economy?

Like almost everything else related to Beloit's revival, it involved the waterfront. Leaders here have long viewed the Rock River as key to luring businesses and people; in 1988 they formed a civic development organization called Beloit 2000 (now Beloit 2020) and cleared dilapidated bars, bowling alleys, and gas stations from the river's banks. In their stead, the group built a park replete with running paths, playgrounds, and paddleboats. The new waterfront is the first thing visitors see upon entering town. Green and vibrant, it practically begs you to stop and take a stroll.
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Old 07-07-2007, 01:28 AM
 
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When the folks up in Janesville acknowledge that they can learn from Beloit's success, you know something is really happening,

The December issue of the Janesville Report had a featured article titled, "Why Beloit's Resurgence Benefits All of Rock County"

And during a recent meeting with planners and residents regarding a 20-year plan for Janesville;

"Residents also said Janesville and Beloit must work together to establish a regional economic center to compete in a global economy.

Residents acknowledged Beloit is on a roll with its downtown and Interstate development and asked how Janesville could realize such success."


I know Drover claimed to be done with this thread, but a question, is this also propaganda, coming from Beloit's long-time rival up the river?
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Old 07-07-2007, 02:53 AM
 
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And something that Drover just doesn't quite get. Beloit is like a jigsaw puzzle where in the past, the pieces weren't aligning quite right (the pieces being industry, corporations, the college, the river, the downtown and the community at large).

Well, these pieces have been coming together for the better part of a decade and when they reach critical mass in a few years, the entire region will take notice.

Take the College for example. Beloit College has been consistently ranked as one of the top liberal art colleges for a long time, but its location in Beloit worked against its success. Well, as the city continues to rediscover/rebuild its riverfront, the College will begin to see its setting as an advantage.

There is even a plan to turn the old library building into part of the college, further integrating the college/downtown.

from an article on the subject

“The building is going to be used for academic purposes and it could involve any kind of a mix. There is nothing definitive. We have numerous plans and we are discussing a number of options,” Nief said.

With the bookstore, arts incubator and the Center for Entrepreneurship in Liberal Education already on East Grand Avenue, downtown is becoming a major stop for college students. If the move is approved, even more students could be downtown.


I would not be one bit surprised if 10 years from now, 100's of students as well as hundreds more young professionals/singles will be calling downtown Beloit home.

When I went to Beloit in the late 80's/early 90's, students more or less NEVER stepped foot in downtown Beloit. Returning alumni are amazed by the fact that the College Bookstore moved downtown. Downtown Beloit will certainly evolve into one of the most lively residential, business, and cultural districts in Wisconsin.

The revitalization of the city as well as Beloit College's growth will certainly feed off one another.

I also see the city emerging as a pretty sizable regional tourist destination.

Mark my words.

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Old 07-07-2007, 03:20 AM
 
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And one more item...

How many Wisconsin cities have an international film festival that after only 2 years, receives such praise as the following.

* "A must-attend event," - Moviemaker Magazine
* "Beloit... a must attend event on the film circuit" -Jennifer Wood
* "All the makings of a fly-in destination for film fans..." -Bruce Wood writer/director
* "BIFF is great on every level," -L.A. actor and award-winning film maker Mark Bernier
* "An international event....the next big thing" -Newsmaker Magazine

BELOIT INTERNATIONAL FILM FESTIVAL :: January 17-20, 2008 (http://www.beloitfilmfest.com/index.asp - broken link)

Even the New York Times took notice after only a few years.

Other Film Festivals: The Sundance Effect - New York Times

just more "propaganda" I suppose....
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Old 08-15-2007, 10:48 AM
 
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Apparently Beloit is already showing signs of increasing growth.

Division of Intergovernmental Relations - Population & Housing Estimates

The latest estimates are that the city has grown to over 37,000, an increase of 4 percent since 2000. Don;t think Beloit has shown any real growth for almost 40 years.

If you check out state projections, Beloit was supposed to barely add a few hundred people by 2030. It's already raced past that in just six years.

Here's my projection for 2030, around 60,000.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:59 PM
 
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Default beloit???????????

Living in Beloit and Janesville area for some 35 years off and on give me many ideas on what is now and what was. Beloit is basically a dying little town most good paying (union) jobs are gone, drug problems rampant (crack cocaine). Many murders for a town this size but mostly drug related. ABC Supply Company owned and ran by Ken Hendricks is a interesting person. He sure does know how to make money, but most of his hourly people are poorly paid (no union scale). He does seem to take care of his upper management people though. He has a somewhat currious past, many many arsons of his properties, thus the nick name "insurance scam Ken" as stated by certain police and fire investigators in the state. The City of Beloit and the Beloit Daily News suck up to him, they look the other way about allegations about him. They need his money. As for Janesville, the city 12 miles to the north of Beloit. They may be in big trouble if GM closes it's plant there, (80 year old factory). Crime is also on the rise in Janesville also, along with a strong rise in the black population (not a rasist or bigot just the facts from the FBI). You can also look at the contrast between Madison, WI and Rockford, IL., one is growing fast the other is on life support.
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:01 AM
 
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If your comment wasnt about "blacks moving in" wasnt racist then why did you mention it?

Janesville is facing far greater problems then Beloit, does triple homicide ring a bell?
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:04 AM
 
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Living in Beloit and Janesville area for some 35 years off and on give me many ideas on what is now and what was. Beloit is basically a dying little town most good paying (union) jobs are gone, drug problems rampant (crack cocaine). Many murders for a town this size but mostly drug related. ABC Supply Company owned and ran by Ken Hendricks is a interesting person. He sure does know how to make money, but most of his hourly people are poorly paid (no union scale). He does seem to take care of his upper management people though. He has a somewhat currious past, many many arsons of his properties, thus the nick name "insurance scam Ken" as stated by certain police and fire investigators in the state. The City of Beloit and the Beloit Daily News suck up to him, they look the other way about allegations about him. They need his money. As for Janesville, the city 12 miles to the north of Beloit. They may be in big trouble if GM closes it's plant there, (80 year old factory). Crime is also on the rise in Janesville also, along with a strong rise in the black population (not a rasist or bigot just the facts from the FBI). You can also look at the contrast between Madison, WI and Rockford, IL., one is growing fast the other is on life support.
If you it wasnt't racist then why would you mention "blacks are moving in". What was the point, go south where you belong.
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