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I really do not understand why people do not get this. Just follow the money both political parties are bought and paid for. They do their backroom deals pay back favors to special interests and big business that gave them money. If it helps job growth great if not who cares. You can always blame it on the other guy. The everyday voter buys it and goes on. I say this as a Republican Romney will do what is good for the special interests that gave him money. Job growth jobs for middle class the debt he could care less. He has his own special interests that gave him money he answers to them. Obama has done lots of dumb moves because he has no idea what he is doing. But neither does Romney he has no plan. To act like he cares about middle class or job growth is a joke. He cares about power and putting some more millions in his pockets. You know what Obama cares about the same thing.
I really do not understand why people do not get this. Just follow the money both political parties are bought and paid for. They do their backroom deals pay back favors to special interests and big business that gave them money. If it helps job growth great if not who cares. You can always blame it on the other guy. The everyday voter buys it and goes on. I say this as a Republican Romney will do what is good for the special interests that gave him money. Job growth jobs for middle class the debt he could care less. He has his own special interests that gave him money he answers to them. Obama has done lots of dumb moves because he has no idea what he is doing. But neither does Romney he has no plan. To act like he cares about middle class or job growth is a joke. He cares about power and putting some more millions in his pockets. You know what Obama cares about the same thing.
The plan is to totally change America. And they are. Obama is just a frontman, like most POTUS are.
People don't see that politicians are not going to solve this for them. They need to read Thomas Jefferson.
As for the UAW, I'm no fan of them, either. But let's not kid ourselves - the survival of the Detroit Three is far better than putting hundreds of thousands more people of out work if they had failed... and no, I don't believe for a moment that some wonderful corporation would have swooped in, bought them up, and kept on employing Americans... after all, we're apparently "too expensive" to employ, and the failure of the Detroit Three would have been a perfect opportunity to send more jobs overseas, which has been an ongoing theme in all adminstrations for decades now.
I disagree, not because they love us, but the auto trend is make it where you sell it. (Examples; VW, Kia, Hyundai adding plants HERE..the reason: Our dollar makes it cheaper to make cars here, plus cars cost a fortune to ship 8,000 miles.
So I do think with a normal bankruptcy, most of GM would have survived intact with union contracts rightsized by judge, and Chrysler would have been sold to Fiat or another foreign concern.
Creditors would have gotten a small amount per $ (not 0 as they did get), Delphi retirees would also have gotten a better deal, and the UAW would have gotten a deeper, fairer haircut.
. Obama has done lots of dumb moves because he has no idea what he is doing. But neither does Romney he has no plan.
I do NOT want either to care, but the difference is Romney has worked in the private sector, while our POTUS is Ted Baxter at knowing how that sector operates.
I do NOT want either to care, but the difference is Romney has worked in the private sector, while our POTUS is Ted Baxter at knowing how that sector operates.
And yet Romney still has no plan except "deregulate" which, as we all know, worked out *great* in the Housing Bubble... oh, and more tax cuts for the rich, despite trickle-down economics having been disproven a long time ago.
Quite franky, Obama and Romney together couldn't run a lemonade stand; Obama would regulate it to death, while Romney would replace the lemonade with yellow food die and floor cleaner, and then send the jobs to China.
Swapping puppets isn't going to change anything - the puppetmasters need to be replaced.
Romney was from a wealthy family. Who used family money and juice to get started. George Romney much more impressive in my book come from nothing and made his money. Mitt Romney started Bain Capital a private equity a game where the rich and those with juice play. Big deal it is not like he stated with nothing. Unless he had no brains at all he was going to make a ton more cash. Which he did and that is impressive how actually? The only way he was going to mess that up was being brain dead. Or becoming a coke head he was a lock private sector or public sector he was a lock. You change the puppet the game remains the same. We lose no matter whose in office.
And yet Romney still has no plan except "deregulate" which, as we all know, worked out *great* in the Housing Bubble... oh, and more tax cuts for the rich, despite trickle-down economics having been disproven a long time ago.
Quite franky, Obama and Romney together couldn't run a lemonade stand; Obama would regulate it to death, while Romney would replace the lemonade with yellow food die and floor cleaner, and then send the jobs to China.
Swapping puppets isn't going to change anything - the puppetmasters need to be replaced.
Targeted tax cuts tied to FTEs would do wonders. But like many did in 2008, I'm simply willing to give a new guy a try, and than 3 years in, just like now, judge the new guys results and act accordingly. I know from 2009-2012 the horrors that result from electing a community organizer. Solyndra anyone?
Targeted tax cuts tied to FTEs would do wonders. But like many did in 2008, I'm simply willing to give a new guy a try, and than 3 years in, just like now, judge the new guys results and act accordingly. I know from 2009-2012 the horrors that result from electing a community organizer. Solyndra anyone?
Solyndra again? Oh, geez...
Yes, that was stupid, but you could write a book on the stupid government backing of bad financial decisions that happened under the last Republican adminstration... Housing Bubble, anyone? And is Obama a socialist if he's trying to help a business? Or is it only socialist when a Democrat spends government money on businesses, but it's okay when a Republican does it (trillion dollar Bailout, Detroit Three Bailout - that started under Bush, etc.)
Keep swapping puppets all you want... as long as the same puppetmasters remain, nothing will change.
Yes, that was stupid, but you could write a book on the stupid government backing of bad financial decisions that happened under the last Republican adminstration... .
Obama took it to a NEW level. Ths industries cost per job from you and me eventually via debt is over 1 MILLION dollars per job created.
Obama took it to a NEW level. Ths industries cost per job from you and me eventually via debt is over 1 MILLION dollars per job created.
The ROI period should be around 100-200 YEARS.
Hahaha... Okay, that was a good one!
I totally agree with you that he's a joke... All he's basically done is hit the accelerator as the nation heads towards the cliff. I *wish* there was a good reason to believe Romney could turn this around, but I'm not seeing it. That being said, I respect your difference of opinion, and quite frankly, I hope you're right. If Romney somehow became one of the best presidents we ever had and the jobs flooded back here and the nation entered a new golden age, I'd be grateful... I don't see it happening, but hey, maybe someday something will end up in favor of the working class in this nation.
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