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Old 03-15-2013, 05:09 AM
 
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Work places these days! Just a rant, I guess.

I hate stressing over this stuff. Where I work, it's next to impossible to "schedule" time off from work. This afternoon would be a great for instance. Got a call from the auto dealership where I recently (last week) financed a car, they need me to come in and sign some more paperwork. They close at 7:00. I work until 7:00.

So the option would be to go in and tell my employer that I need to get off 1 hour early, so I can handle a personal business matter.

Not where I work. You don't tell your boss. You submit for time off, to some obscure other dept., through the computer. The "other dept" then sends you back a denial, count on it, everytime.

"Denied" due to insufficient staffing, is typical.

Not my fault this Fortune 500 company that I work for can't "staff" their site enough so that the dedicated employees that DO work there, can handle their own personal affairs when needed.

So, go to my boss for an over-ride? Nope. Boss says he doesn't do over-rides. Not unless it's a matter of life or death and the above certainly isn't that.

The next time I will be off is Wednesday and Thursday (my normal days off). I work every day except those two. Also off on Sundays, but the Finance person at the auto dealership that needs to see me, isn't in on Sundays.

It's just a rant, that's all. I know, the auto dealership, that's their problem, they can just wait. Should've had the paperwork complete when I left there, so they can just wait.

But it's the principle of it all. Things happen in one's life, and they need some time off, on short notice to deal with personal matters, and that simply isn't an option where I work. It just isn't.

In fact, I get vacation time that is mine to use. But try going into work today, and putting in/submitting for a day next week or the week after, just to utilize one of your days off. Won't happen. Denied, due to insufficient staffing, will be the answer.

Now if I want to take off, this is March right now, if I want to plan something for several months from now, ... let's say September or October, ... that will likely get approved. But what I'm griping about is the short notice, and not being flexible on that.
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:06 AM
 
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Can you set an appt with the auto dealership for early morning? If you get out of work at 7PM, you probably don't start until 10AM. Can you see the dealer at 8:30?

FYI...start calling in sick if you must have time off on short notice. That's your only option other than going to work. Or go into work and leave sick.
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:29 AM
 
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Yeah. The auto place doesnt make a dime until you sign. Dont let them push you into doing something stupid. They really can stay there longer and wait for you.
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:14 AM
 
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That's too bad. I make every effort to get my employees the time off they request. If it is possible, I'd tell the auto guy that if it is that important, he can meet you at work when you are on a break.
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Old 03-16-2013, 04:43 AM
 
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Can you set an appt with the auto dealership for early morning? If you get out of work at 7PM, you probably don't start until 10AM. Can you see the dealer at 8:30?

FYI...start calling in sick if you must have time off on short notice. That's your only option other than going to work. Or go into work and leave sick.
Dealership doesn't open until 9:00 AM, and I am into my workday by then. I work 10 hour days, part of my normal shift. My days off are Wed., Thurs., and Sun.

Oh believe me, I have had to use the 'sick' excuse, at times when I really am not, just because there is a personal issue that needs attn, and I can't legitimately get the time off from work. Recently when my car needed repair. I just called in sick, because I knew the other option was to hobble on into work with my questionable car, and hope that they would let me leave early to get to the mechanic, and I know they wouldn't. The answer is always "denied, insufficient staffing" when you put in, for time off, on short notice.

So I called out for the day. The mechanic had my car anyway, until about 2:00 PM, from first thing in the morning. Now I guess if they'd of just given me the time off, I could've gone on in for the rest of my shift, .... until 7:00 PM, and legitimately utilized "my" personal time/vaca days, whatever. But instead that got put in the sick leave column. And it's dishonest, and I don't like having to do that.
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Old 03-16-2013, 10:25 AM
 
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What do they consider short notice?

When a vacation day is approved, do they actually staff someone extra to cover someone on vacation?
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Old 03-16-2013, 10:31 AM
 
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A little logic would give you the answer. Have the dealership mail you the documents. You'd have them the next day. Sign them and drop them back in the mail, they'll get them the day after that. Problem solved.
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Old 03-16-2013, 10:33 AM
 
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That's too bad. I make every effort to get my employees the time off they request. If it is possible, I'd tell the auto guy that if it is that important, he can meet you at work when you are on a break.
Or stick around until 7:30 so the OP could go after work to sign. I agree, I have always tried to work with my employees, but there are crunch times when you really need them there, and expect them to be available for their scheduled shifts.
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Old 03-16-2013, 12:14 PM
 
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If you're off Weds, Thurs and Sun, you should be able to organize your time in order to get things done on those days. I used to work 10 hr days with Friday off, so I'd go to the doctor and mechanic on Fridays. Time management is key.

It's not unusual for an employer to need people to work their whole shifts - try working in a factory or busy phone bank sometime. If the office is slow enough to let people leave early whenever, they might decide they're overstaffed and lay you off!
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:19 PM
 
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If you're off Weds, Thurs and Sun, you should be able to organize your time in order to get things done on those days. I used to work 10 hr days with Friday off, so I'd go to the doctor and mechanic on Fridays. Time management is key.

It's not unusual for an employer to need people to work their whole shifts - try working in a factory or busy phone bank sometime. If the office is slow enough to let people leave early whenever, they might decide they're overstaffed and lay you off!
Sort of what I was thinking. I work M-F and manage to get most of my appointments done without missing work. Yes, sometimes I have to come in early, or trade a shift with another employee, but I am not taking the time off that day.

Sounds like this is a policy in place to keep people from all needing to leave an hour early...if they deny same day requests, well the problem is solved. And with 3 days off a week, I am not all that sympathetic. Even if the car issue you mention happened on a MOnday, all you would have needed was to rent a car for 2 days, to get a ride from a friend, or take a bus until your next day off.
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