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Old 11-09-2013, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I'm 29 years old and have been in the full time career workforce for 7 years now. As of now, the standard work week is 40 hours (or more) depending on your position, company, industry and profession. But I gotta be honest here. I think even 40 hours a week is slightly pushing it. I think a 35 hour work week would be perfect, and with at least 4 weeks of vacation per year. So, you come into work at 9 AM and have a 1-hour lunch and leave at 5 PM. What's so bad about that? And you get 4 weeks of vacation per year, so that's one week per quarter.

It's very common in Europe, but over here in America you sound like a lazy slacker if you advocate such things. I don't know...but 8 hours of work per day is when it becomes tiring and unhealthy.

For me, I personally only work at companies that value work life balance and vacation time. Fortunately, my work week is 40 hours and I get 23 PTO days per year, so I don't really complain. But I think 35 hour weeks would be ideal, with a 1 hour lunch break or combination of breaks.

I'm a corporate tax accountant.

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Old 11-10-2013, 12:14 AM
 
Location: Eastern Colorado
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You get over 4 weeks PTO and only work 40 hours a week and feel that is too much? If anything the work week is getting longer as opposed to shorter, and I doubt the work week ever gets cut down.
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Old 11-10-2013, 03:57 AM
 
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I'm 29 years old and have been in the full time career workforce for 7 years now. As of now, the standard work week is 40 hours (or more) depending on your position, company, industry and profession. But I gotta be honest here. I think even 40 hours a week is slightly pushing it. I think a 35 hour work week would be perfect, and with at least 4 weeks of vacation per year. So, you come into work at 9 AM and have a 1-hour lunch and leave at 5 PM. What's so bad about that? And you get 4 weeks of vacation per year, so that's one week per quarter.

It's very common in Europe, but over here in America you sound like a lazy slacker if you advocate such things. I don't know...but 8 hours of work per day is when it becomes tiring and unhealthy.

For me, I personally only work at companies that value work life balance and vacation time. Fortunately, my work week is 40 hours and I get 23 PTO days per year, so I don't really complain. But I think 35 hour weeks would be ideal, with a 1 hour lunch break or combination of breaks.

I'm a corporate tax accountant.

Thoughts?
Will never happen. Especially for salary people.
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Old 11-10-2013, 04:15 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I'm 29 years old and have been in the full time career workforce for 7 years now. As of now, the standard work week is 40 hours (or more) depending on your position, company, industry and profession. But I gotta be honest here. I think even 40 hours a week is slightly pushing it. I think a 35 hour work week would be perfect, and with at least 4 weeks of vacation per year. So, you come into work at 9 AM and have a 1-hour lunch and leave at 5 PM. What's so bad about that? And you get 4 weeks of vacation per year, so that's one week per quarter.

It's very common in Europe, but over here in America you sound like a lazy slacker if you advocate such things. I don't know...but 8 hours of work per day is when it becomes tiring and unhealthy.

For me, I personally only work at companies that value work life balance and vacation time. Fortunately, my work week is 40 hours and I get 23 PTO days per year, so I don't really complain. But I think 35 hour weeks would be ideal, with a 1 hour lunch break or combination of breaks.

I'm a corporate tax accountant.

Thoughts?
... hahaha. Wait, excuse me... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I'm an Area AVP for a major financial services company, and in process to relocate in a little over a week to another part of the country to become an Area VP within the same company, and think this is the most hilarious post I've seen in quite some time. No offense intended - just think the idea is laughable at best.

I work generally 10 to 12 hours a day AT the office, with a lunch spent in my office, scarfing down lunch while working, and another 2-3 a day working remotely from home via my corporate laptop. And have absolutely no problem doing it. I don't feel overworked, because I get paid well, and am expected to work for my keep. I get almost 2 months told PTO (vacation, sick time, and flex time combined), and honestly think it's overkill, but I'm not going to complain that much.

I'm sorry, but the whole "OMG I WORK TOO MUCH, WE SHOULD HAVE 35 HOUR WORK WEEKS" thing just shows how lazy our society is. And again, not trying to be a douche, but seriously... this is the problem with our society - entitlement to do less for more.

No one said life, nor work, is easy. Deal with it.

Just my two cents.
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Old 11-10-2013, 05:21 AM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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I'm 29 years old and have been in the full time career workforce for 7 years now. As of now, the standard work week is 40 hours (or more) depending on your position, company, industry and profession. But I gotta be honest here. I think even 40 hours a week is slightly pushing it. I think a 35 hour work week would be perfect, and with at least 4 weeks of vacation per year. So, you come into work at 9 AM and have a 1-hour lunch and leave at 5 PM. What's so bad about that? And you get 4 weeks of vacation per year, so that's one week per quarter.

It's very common in Europe, but over here in America you sound like a lazy slacker if you advocate such things. I don't know...but 8 hours of work per day is when it becomes tiring and unhealthy.

For me, I personally only work at companies that value work life balance and vacation time. Fortunately, my work week is 40 hours and I get 23 PTO days per year, so I don't really complain. But I think 35 hour weeks would be ideal, with a 1 hour lunch break or combination of breaks.

I'm a corporate tax accountant.

Thoughts?
Not gonna happen. These days if you are able to grab one of few full-time jobs you are lucky if you ONLY work 40 hours a week. I work on average 41-42 per week and I consider myself lucky when compared to my peers. The employers are trying to do more with less employees so they would not see 35 hours a week as being profitable. This country doesn't even believe in mandatory PTO, which I think is a bigger problem.
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Old 11-10-2013, 05:23 AM
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Location: Florida
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The matter of the number of hours in a work week is really not about more hours being "tiring and unhealthy" (there are some jobs that are far more "tiring and unhealthy" in 2 hours than many other jobs would be in 12 hours) but rather it is a matter of managing the number of living wage jobs available where people live. For most jobs, a department of 24 people working 35 hours a week would do roughly the same work as 21 people working 40 hours, but having 21 people on staff costs less (due to both administrative costs and for benefits). On the other hand, it means three people that could have had living wage jobs without living wage jobs. Society has to play a moral balancing act between what's good for society (fewer people reliant on public assistance) and what's good for businesses (fewer people on payroll).
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Old 11-10-2013, 07:08 AM
 
Location: OH
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Find a job as low-level retail employee if you only want to work 35 hours and be considered full-time. When I worked retail in college we had employees begging for more hours when they were only receiving 32-35 hours a week; yet they were considered full-time.

I work for the government and on a bad week, I'm only working about 42 hours max. Considering a previous job I had that required me to work an average of 52 hours a week and looking at some of my friends, I consider myself very lucky to still have a job that only requires 40 hours a week.
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Old 11-10-2013, 07:23 AM
 
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40 hours is pushing it? No, I never foresee a 35 hour week. I have a 35 hour a week salary position but all that means is I get a paid meal break; I still work 40+ hours a week and, if needed, I will work close to 60. Eight hours of work a day is not "unhealthy."
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Old 11-10-2013, 07:51 AM
 
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... hahaha. Wait, excuse me... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I'm an Area AVP for a major financial services company, and in process to relocate in a little over a week to another part of the country to become an Area VP within the same company, and think this is the most hilarious post I've seen in quite some time. No offense intended - just think the idea is laughable at best.

I work generally 10 to 12 hours a day AT the office, with a lunch spent in my office, scarfing down lunch while working, and another 2-3 a day working remotely from home via my corporate laptop. And have absolutely no problem doing it. I don't feel overworked, because I get paid well, and am expected to work for my keep. I get almost 2 months told PTO (vacation, sick time, and flex time combined), and honestly think it's overkill, but I'm not going to complain that much.

I'm sorry, but the whole "OMG I WORK TOO MUCH, WE SHOULD HAVE 35 HOUR WORK WEEKS" thing just shows how lazy our society is. And again, not trying to be a douche, but seriously... this is the problem with our society - entitlement to do less for more.

No one said life, nor work, is easy. Deal with it.

Just my two cents.
Can I ask a serious question here? I'm not bashing you or anything, I'm just really curious, and I have always been fascinated by people like you.

Do you have a wife and/or kids? If so, do you ever have a chance to spend ANY time with them?

Does it not drive you crazy that you have no free time whatsoever?

What difference does making a lot of money make if you have no time to enjoy spending it?

15 hours of work a day? That leaves about an hour a day once you subtract sleeping from it.

How can anyone actually live like this?
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Old 11-10-2013, 07:58 AM
 
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I'm 29 years old and have been in the full time career workforce for 7 years now. As of now, the standard work week is 40 hours (or more) depending on your position, company, industry and profession. But I gotta be honest here. I think even 40 hours a week is slightly pushing it. I think a 35 hour work week would be perfect, and with at least 4 weeks of vacation per year. So, you come into work at 9 AM and have a 1-hour lunch and leave at 5 PM. What's so bad about that? And you get 4 weeks of vacation per year, so that's one week per quarter.

It's very common in Europe, but over here in America you sound like a lazy slacker if you advocate such things. I don't know...but 8 hours of work per day is when it becomes tiring and unhealthy.

For me, I personally only work at companies that value work life balance and vacation time. Fortunately, my work week is 40 hours and I get 23 PTO days per year, so I don't really complain. But I think 35 hour weeks would be ideal, with a 1 hour lunch break or combination of breaks.

I'm a corporate tax accountant.

Thoughts?
There are always the lead sled dogs, middle of the pack dogs, and those following up in the rear. Each has a distinct role and energy to fulfill that position.

Chose your position but stop trying to make the entire country a bunch of followers.

Some people LOVE working and chose a career they have passion for.

I would NEVER want you to be my corporate accountant. I only hire people who LOVE what they do.

And I guess GDP per capita wasn't something you learned in college.

But hey, I'm happy you can live here and not Europe and benefit from all the hard work of others.

US boss berates French for 'three-hour' working day

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France's Socialist government, led by President Francois Hollande, is struggling to boost the productivity of its industries in the face of increasing global competition. French firms have announced thousands of job cuts in recent months as the economy stagnates.

The country's labour minister Michel Sapin stoked panic last month after describing France as "totally bankrupt" while being interviewed on radio, a gaffe hastily dismissed as "inappropriate" by finance minister Pierre Moscovici, who said: “France is a really solvent country. France is a really credible country, France is a country that is starting to recover.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/f...rking-day.html

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