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Old 06-06-2014, 06:22 AM
 
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So I am this guys supervisor. He is new only worked 3 months, and he isn't the nicest guy to be around. But what he said the other day REALLY upset me; enough to report him. Moderator cut: inappropriate
She then said some other choice words about me not being a tattle tell. I couldn't believe it. I'd think at the least something like that deserves a write up. Thoughts?

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Old 06-06-2014, 06:43 AM
 
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People suck.

But in this case, since your income is dependent on dealing with these sucky people, you have 4 choices:

1. Go above your boss and report the issue to HR. In theory, HR is there to handle sexual harassment cases. It's their job, not your boss'. However, if you go this route, be prepared for all of the hell that will come your way, especially if your boss has already reacted the way she did.

2. Keep your mouth shut and deal with it until you can find another job.

3. Quit right now without another job lined up.

4. If you're in a big company, try to transfer to another part of the office, another department or another floor so that you no longer have to work with your boss or this guy.
 
Old 06-06-2014, 06:51 AM
 
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BTW, I notice your username is WorkingMan86.

If no one has made these offensive comments to you and only the women in your office, then it's not your place to get involved and instigate. Only the women in which the comments were made to should be reporting anything to anyone.

If you're the guy's supervisor, meet with him and discuss how you feel about the things he says. If that doesn't resolve the issue, begin the corrective action process to fire them. That's your job.
 
Old 06-06-2014, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Duluth, MN
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Whatever else you do, I'd make sure to document what happened.

Make some notes - while it's still fresh in your memory - about what the guy said and what your supervisor's response was.
 
Old 06-06-2014, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Western Washington
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Originally Posted by 313Weather View Post
BTW, I notice your username is WorkingMan86.

If no one has made these offensive comments to you and only the women in your office, then it's not your place to get involved and instigate. Only the women in which the comments were made to should be reporting anything to anyone.

If you're the guy's supervisor, meet with him and discuss how you feel about the things he says. If that doesn't resolve the issue, begin the corrective action process to fire them. That's your job.
I disagree. The OP is the rape-dude's supervisor. It is OPs responsibility to ensure a safe, harassment free workplace. He now knows that rape-dude drops these comments, and it will come back on OP if no action is taken.

OP's boss dropped the ball on this one.

You have to be sensitive to company politics, and I don't know what level of supervisor OP is, but the ideal course of action on this is to consult with HR. They will probably recommend a written warning, resulting in termination if the infraction is repeated again in the next X months, or they might go directly to termination.

If I were the supervisor in this case, I would have immediately suspended rape-dude (with pay) and gone to HR. Within 1-2 days HR would recommend or require termination. OP may not have this authority though.
 
Old 06-06-2014, 07:20 AM
 
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BTW, I notice your username is WorkingMan86.

If no one has made these offensive comments to you and only the women in your office, then it's not your place to get involved and instigate. Only the women in which the comments were made to should be reporting anything to anyone.

If you're the guy's supervisor, meet with him and discuss how you feel about the things he says. If that doesn't resolve the issue, begin the corrective action process to fire them. That's your job.
This is wrong. Sexual harassment is defined as any sexually-oriented behavior that is unwelcomed and makes you feel uncomfortable, it does not specifically have to be directed toward you or your gender.

It is then up to HR to decide whether or not your complaint warrants disciplinary action for those involved.
 
Old 06-06-2014, 07:38 AM
 
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I disagree. The OP is the rape-dude's supervisor. It is OPs responsibility to ensure a safe, harassment free workplace. He now knows that rape-dude drops these comments, and it will come back on OP if no action is taken.

OP's boss dropped the ball on this one.

You have to be sensitive to company politics, and I don't know what level of supervisor OP is, but the ideal course of action on this is to consult with HR. They will probably recommend a written warning, resulting in termination if the infraction is repeated again in the next X months, or they might go directly to termination.

If I were the supervisor in this case, I would have immediately suspended rape-dude (with pay) and gone to HR. Within 1-2 days HR would recommend or require termination. OP may not have this authority though.
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This is wrong. Sexual harassment is defined as any sexually-oriented behavior that is unwelcomed and makes you feel uncomfortable, it does not specifically have to be directed toward you or your gender.

It is then up to HR to decide whether or not your complaint warrants disciplinary action for those involved.
The issue is no one has actually come to the OP to complain about sexual harassment from this person. So it's a question of whether it's even necessary for him to bring it up to HR in the first place.

It would be best (not to mention it could save everyone's time and resources) to first discuss it with the employee and give him a chance to cool it. This is probably along of lines of what HR will do any way.
 
Old 06-06-2014, 07:41 AM
 
Location: NC
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Put it in writing to your boss and report it as a behavior note on the employee. That way if something happens in the future, you are protected that you notified your boss and she did nothing.
 
Old 06-06-2014, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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I believe it is the law in some states that nobody has to complain about being harrassed directly by someone at work. If YOU are offended by his comments as a third party you absolutely can and should report him to HR immediately! I know people did that all the time when I worked in the upper Midwest. As long as nobody says anything he's going to continue this despicable behaviour and believe that he can get away with it. This needs to be taken care of now! To just have a word with this moron and then leave it alone is cowardice pure and simple.
 
Old 06-06-2014, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Up North in God's Country
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I would document this, and I would document your boss's comments also. Start a log. That goofball is bound to make more comments in the future.
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