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IS there a "Light Blue" collar catagory I for example have no college, am ex-military enlisted. When I'm in the office I'm the only non-engineer in an engineering department,setting on a desk typical white collar. When I'm in the field I'm operating,fixing,training guys, on 2000 to 10000 hp diesel engines, blue collar? I rarely get dirty anymore (enless I want to) but I have to draw pictures for those college trained Engineers all the time!!!!!!!!!
I guess I would opt for "Light Blue" myself. I used to be a RE broker up in N.Y. Very white collar, always wearing suits or dresses. Then I discovered that the segment of the market that I liked the best was new construction. Now I live in the south and I have a construction company, and I also work as a subcontractor for other builders, and I hire agents to do our sales because I don't want to have to wear anything but jeans to work.
I think that I was more concerned about appearances when I was younger. As you get older you are less concerned with what others think. For those of you who are old enough to remember Billy Crystal as Fernando on SNL... my philosophy back then was "It is better to look good than to feel good". Now it is the opposite.
I am female (white-collar, or as I was told recently "pink collar" which is the highly educated but underpaid female segment of the white collar work force) and would rather be with a blue-collar guy any day of the week. I'm partial to carpenters, mechanics, and heavy equipment operators. More passion, more fun, more practical, more down-to-earth, better dancers, better conversation, waaaaaay more fun in the bedroom. Now I am generalizing but that has been my personal experience and that's really all that matters to me!
In general, most blue collar work is boring. I know someone who is a plumber but he is bored silly doing the same tasks over and over. He is paid well but unless he moves into management he is going to be doing those same boring tasks over and over and over until he goes insane!
funny every guy i've ever known who works in the IT field or in management says the exact same thing about how boring their jobs are and drive them insane!
funny every guy i've ever known who works in the IT field or in management says the exact same thing about how boring their jobs are and drive them insane!
It can be boring. I prefer the blended jobs where in the morning I'm sitting at my desk reading email or typing up something while listening to music and drinking my coffee and then the afternoon I'm running wire and setting up wireless access points and so forth. Every day is a little bit different, but it does still get repetitive.
After spending years working in the Blue Collar areas of warehousing, I was mighty glad to get out of it and have a White Collar type of job with an office, computer and phone. Even though I don't have a Degree, I'm very much FOR education and Degrees. My wife works in Accounting and found out that she would get a much better salary by having a Degree, of which she got her Bachelor's when she was 49 yrs. old. Some folks like "labor" type jobs, while others like the "office" type jobs. When I was 54 yrs old, I didn't want to "flex" my muscles again on a job, only use my brain and "keyboard loving" fingers.
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Because many Blue Collar workers seem to have less polish and intelligence than some white collar workers. They are more likely to no match the persona that our media shows as a good American. Is this always true, NO, but is true the majority of the time. White collar people tend to pay more attention to education and their appearance. Their diction and grammar is better and look the part of how America would like to see themselves.
Most higher up "White Collar" Workers wear their "intelligences" outside for decoration.
Most "blue Collar" jobs are or can be considered "dirty" jobs so our intelligence is stored inside for safe keeping. We're often called ingnorant.
Our Intelligents don't show until the job starts.
Most of us are mechanically inclined.
I would like to see a white collar worker frown upon a union Steel Worker, Train Conductor, Truck Driver, Longshoremen. All of whom need 0 college (time wasted and money) and can start off at $50,000 and peak above $100,000, always have a stable job and pensions.
Union steel workers need to finish college or have their licenses to be hired. Train conductors work 14-hour shifts and earn peanuts. Truck drivers start at $12 per hour after paying $5,000 for school with a perfect driving record for 5 years. Longshoreman also have educational requirements or licenses to get before working.
Sorry, the day of working hard right out of high school is over.
Sorry, the day of working hard right out of high school is over.
Not really. Both my sons went through the apprenticeship in my trade and they make very good money. They needed high school not college. They started at 60% of journeyman scale and got a 5% raise every six months; that's still very good money.
Union ironworkers (not the same thing as union steelworkers by the way; ironworkers build with steel and steelworkers make steel) usually go through an apprenticeship, no college needed.
Of course quite a few college educated young folks come into union apprenticeships. I was an apprentice teacher and we had a couple of fellas that had degrees from the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. I sent my girls to that school but they didn't follow me into the trade.
Union steel workers need to finish college or have their licenses to be hired. Train conductors work 14-hour shifts and earn peanuts. Truck drivers start at $12 per hour after paying $5,000 for school with a perfect driving record for 5 years. Longshoreman also have educational requirements or licenses to get before working.
Sorry, the day of working hard right out of high school is over.
I never needed to pay anything and I drive a truck. I was started at $16 per hour and make top rate of $28 now. Not saying you're wrong.
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I for example have no college, am ex-military enlisted. When I'm in the office I'm the only non-engineer in an engineering department,setting on a desk typical white collar. When I'm in the field I'm operating,fixing,training guys, on 2000 to 10000 hp diesel engines, blue collar? I rarely get dirty anymore (enless I want to) but I have to draw pictures for those college trained Engineers all the time!!!!!!!!!
