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Old 08-17-2008, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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1. I always feel like if I hang out and watch, I might learn something.

Bird-dogging a tradesman is guaranteed to slow his pace. If you want to learn join an aprenticeship program.

 
Old 08-17-2008, 11:01 PM
 
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Well would you let a stranger have the run of your house with your property? I have seen enough of theft on the job that I don't trust strangers much at all. I really don;t see hat your having better stuff has to do with anything other than your thinking your customers are below you somehow.That comment mad eme pretty sure you can help but convey that to your customers.
 
Old 08-18-2008, 02:25 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Bird-dogging a tradesman is guaranteed to slow his pace. If you want to learn join an aprenticeship program.


Usually, I sit in the corner and watch. I have found that the people I have hired have always been really nice and happy for the interest. They have _told_me_ to ask questions. I think they're amused a woman would care about that stuff. And no one has increased their price over their original estimate. I have learned a LOT. Not just about how to do the job, but other details as to whose work people trust, which brands people in the industry prefer, etc. Fascinating.

Being available for questions isn't about "how to do the work." Questions come up all the time - "Do you have a computer on? Do you know where this switch leads? How old is this part? This is also messed up - do you want me to replace it, too?" But I guess I haven't been hiring psychic servicemen.

And, Bydand, I guess based on what you say I do think 95% of your customers are idiots...do they give out their social security numbers, too?
 
Old 01-26-2010, 12:14 PM
 
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I agree i went to college and uni only to spend the next 5 yrs, quitting every flaming office job I got, and also a few manual ones, as they were pretty crap, and now I dont work and have a few issues that need resolving, apart from that I' am fine, or will be in a year or two, I think
 
Old 01-26-2010, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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I've worn both collars and regardless of color, they are still collars.

I work for a living but what I do isn't my life. My life happens when work is done for the day.
 
Old 01-30-2010, 06:55 AM
 
Location: North Dakota
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I love my job as a self-employed flooring installer. It keeps me in shape, and time flies by so fast...it is scary at times. Since i am a self-employed subcontractor, i get to pretty much make my own schedule. My father who taught me the trade was an installer for 43 years. The nice thing about many skilled labor jobs is the job security. In my case, people will always want new flooring. And last, the pay is great. I do have a lot of money devoted to my trade though, from being licensed, certified, bonded and insured to my numerous tools. It puts me a level above most other installers, which is key. So the next time someone tells you to go to college because it is the only way, don't believe it. You always have other options.
 
Old 01-30-2010, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Friend's couch
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Ya just gotta kiss too much a** in the white collar world.
 
Old 01-30-2010, 12:03 PM
 
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Ya just gotta kiss too much a** in the white collar world.
Totally agree there. Not to mention in the white collar world you still have to compete with the slutty chick that knows how to push just the right buttons with the boss.
 
Old 01-31-2010, 04:10 AM
 
Location: Central California
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I graduated with B.S. Degree in Biology. One year after graduation I was in an apprentice program to become a Lineman for the power company. That was 1978, this year I'm going to retire from the same company.

I always told people that the Linework thing was just temporary until I found something in my field.
 
Old 01-31-2010, 08:53 AM
 
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I graduated with B.S. Degree in Biology. One year after graduation I was in an apprentice program to become a Lineman for the power company. That was 1978, this year I'm going to retire from the same company.

I always told people that the Linework thing was just temporary until I found something in my field.
Back in those days it probably was easier to get into trades. College or owning your own business was the thing to do. Fast forward 30 years now B.S. degree is too expensive and trades are hard to get into.
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