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As in many professions 90% of people in those professions have a degree of one sort or another.
As a person with at least a bachelors degree in something, How has it been working for someone without one?
What was your experience?
Did they act as professionals?
Back asswords Even worse when you actually have more formal education than even management (2-3 levels above you) since they obtained those positions back when you needed no formal education to get the job.
Something is really "off" when you have literally more formal education than EVERYONE in management above you
.. And for those saying they have "no issues with it". You SHOULD have issues with it.. You make an effort to obtain far more formal education getting THOUSANDS Of dollars in debt only to work for high school graduates who have no debt with no formal secular higher education.
You're making probably 30-50 thousand dollars LESS than those above you with only a high school education.
Something is WRONG with that picture.. Sorry but thats the bottom line
.. And for those saying they have "no issues with it". You SHOULD have issues with it.. You make an effort to obtain far more formal education getting THOUSANDS Of dollars in debt only to work for high school graduates who have no debt and no formal secular higher education.
You're making probably 30-50 thousand dollars LESS than those above you with only a high school education.
Something is WRONG with that picture.. Sorry but thats the bottom line
Nope, I have no issues with it. That's because I know that you can't learn everything in college, even after going through grad school.
I have a college degree, plus 2 additional degrees. And one of my best bosses ever did not have a college degree. But she knew her stuff, and she respected my knowledge, and deferred to me where I had expertise (from both education and experience) and she didn't. And most importantly, she had excellent people and managerial skills, which is something that many managers, both with and without degrees, often lack.
It never bothered me. I've had good bosses who were college drop-outs, and I've had a truly awful boss who shared my alma mater - it was the ONLY thing we had in common. I knew a few people without a degree in managerial positions, who seem somewhat insecure about their lack of credentials, but it didn't affect their job performance or my relationship with them.
But I have two Master's degrees and for a period of time was (temporarily) supervised by someone who had a Bachelor's degree (if that. She may have just had an Associate's degree, not sure.)
It was...awkward.
First of all, she was EXTREMELY threatened by me, because it was clear I was more knowledgeable and certainly more educated than she was.
So...she took it upon herself to harass me, review all my charts (needlessly), and try to get me fired.
(Also, truth be told, she wasn't terribly professional, couldn't speak or write a grammatical sentence, and had poor boundaries with clients.)
Thats another good point too.. If you are college educated and you're boss' above you aren't. Get ready for some MAJOR resentment, backstabbing, insecurities
As in many professions 90% of people in those professions have a degree of one sort or another.
As a person with at least a bachelors degree in something, How has it been working for someone without one?
What was your experience?
Did they act as professionals?
It was a nightmare, but actually had a good ending. Back in about 2006, I worked for this dude in a carpet cleaning job. I was fresh out of college and I have no ambition.
He had basically apprenticed for someone, then made his own business, and went from like four employees to two (counting me) thanks to recession. It was a split shift deal, meaning I was always tired, and I want a job where I can have a schedule that I can meet people my own age. I tried to quit, and managed to downsize my own job to day only (thank God). Unfortunately, the tradeoff was reduced hours, except for the odd weekend and night.
So anyway, I was wanting normal job with normal hours, and I got the most isolating and depressing job ever. The guy was not college educated, and I got the sense he was probably covering dyslexia. He was used to talking down to employees, because as he said, most of his previous employees had been kinda stupid. Anyway, yea, I could talk about Greek drama or various history events, but I realized that in terms of practical skill, college education was kind of a waste of money.
I worked for him begrudgingly for about a year 1/2, but then my dad was in the hospital one night for what I feared was a hert attack, and I had to work that night. That was the beginning of the end for that job. A little before Easter, I was like "Nah, I don't want to work here anymore" and told him my week or so notice.
There is an upside to working for someone without a degree. You learn about hard work. The downside, is that even if they would like to treat you better, their own job sucks. After I left, the other guy left soon after, and he basically did the whole job himself.
I worked up the nerve to call him years later, to update my resume. Because I had changed my name, and needed new references. Turned out I probably didn't need to since it went back more than 7 years, but it was a surprisingly refreshing conversation. I got closure, and a sense that things were bad, but not as bad as I thought at the time. That said, I'm pretty sure I'd never wanna work there again.
Sadly, I've seen all too many college graduates seriously lacking in writing skills too. I thought it might be because for some of these folks, English wasn't their first language, but honestly I don't know why otherwise.
I know. It is really disturbing.
It's almost like someone needs to have a Master's degree or a Ph.D. to simply be literate in their native language. A sad state of affairs.
.. And for those saying they have "no issues with it". You SHOULD have issues with it.. You make an effort to obtain far more formal education getting THOUSANDS Of dollars in debt only to work for high school graduates who have no debt with no formal secular higher education.
You're making probably 30-50 thousand dollars LESS than those above you with only a high school education.
As in many professions 90% of people in those professions have a degree of one sort or another.
As a person with at least a bachelors degree in something, How has it been working for someone without one?
What was your experience?
Did they act as professionals?
My favorite boss of all time didn't have a degree. I'd work for him again in a heartbeat.
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