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Old 02-17-2016, 05:57 AM
 
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..."Paranoia strikes deep. Into your heart it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid. Step out of line the man comes and takes you away."
"In the year 2525, if man is still alive..."
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:03 PM
 
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You just figure this out?
I've known that for a while. I was just adding that to the OP's list, don't be rude.
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Old 02-18-2016, 11:14 AM
 
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A prior company for which I worked had the most unusual hiring policy. First of all, they would , or more accurately the Exec. Dir. there would at times advertise for Directing Managers for some depts. in the organization. It would come out of the blue without any warning. Now, one must remember, most depts. at that time consisted of a manager and some staff reporting to this individual. It so happened after the Holiday Staff Party, two managers did not go , so the very next Monday, the Exec. Dir. placed job listings for Directors to head each dept, currently managed by the two absentee managers at the Office Holiday Party. Each job posting mentioned the role as heading the dept. and managing the existing staff too. Now fast forward over 2 months, the job listings no longer exist and the positions were never filled. Very odd as most anybody would agree.

It became obvious, probably more out of spite and feeling let down, the Exec. Dir. wanted to show she can wield power and decide the fate of individuals at the organization. A scare tactic if you will. Luckily, the two managers were ultimately resigned to stay at the company, and so tempered their own behaviors with more compliance and obedience to the Exec. Dir. When this was achieved, no more job listings and the Exec. Dir. was now pleased to get everyone in line.

What we learned from this boss : beware of some bosses with no kids and no real detectable life outside of work. This is cause for concern when a boss will come in very early, not take many vacation days and rule in an autocratic way. The type that will stay in her office all day and use meetings , non stop meetings as way of interaction with employees. Almost a surrogate for a non existent social life. We also noticed, at any opportunity, she would try to pass the buck of leadership in gatherings to others. Almost like she did not put herself on the line. In ways avoiding the heat. Our belief was , at $350,000 per year, she would want to step up to the plate more.
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Old 02-19-2016, 07:45 PM
 
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So they will have a long list of candidates in case an opening develops.
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Old 02-21-2016, 12:19 PM
 
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Many companies need to fool the government so that they can import visa workers.
This is just the game that Facepuke, Apple and Microsoft play among others.
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Old 02-21-2016, 06:57 PM
 
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How does that tinfoil hat fit?
Nothing tinfoil about it at all. Back when I was between jobs, I was flat-out told by companies that most of their positions were either completely fake, or were, at best, just "trying the waters" with absolutely no real need to hire anyone. There's also the visa worker angle, where they post a job, interview people (with no intend to hire them), and then cry to Congress that they "just can't find anyone with the right skills" so they can then turn around and hire a visa worker for 1/2 the salary.

Hell, there was one company where after I got the rejection email, I later received another email asking me to ignore the rejection email because the engineering manager discovered that HR had intentionally setup the automatic resume filters to auto-reject EVERYONE who applied to the jobs?! In rage, he demanded HR allow him to interview some potential employees, myself being one of them. Not surprisingly, nobody was actually hired once HR regrouped and ended that little rebellion, and those fake "jobs" continued to exist on the company's website for months.

I have no idea how anyone can think otherwise since many companies these days, brazen in how perfectly they control the system, will basically admit to this if pushed.
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Old 02-21-2016, 08:48 PM
 
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Nothing tinfoil about it at all. Back when I was between jobs, I was flat-out told by companies that most of their positions were either completely fake, or were, at best, just "trying the waters" with absolutely no real need to hire anyone. There's also the visa worker angle, where they post a job, interview people (with no intend to hire them), and then cry to Congress that they "just can't find anyone with the right skills" so they can then turn around and hire a visa worker for 1/2 the salary.

Hell, there was one company where after I got the rejection email, I later received another email asking me to ignore the rejection email because the engineering manager discovered that HR had intentionally setup the automatic resume filters to auto-reject EVERYONE who applied to the jobs?! In rage, he demanded HR allow him to interview some potential employees, myself being one of them. Not surprisingly, nobody was actually hired once HR regrouped and ended that little rebellion, and those fake "jobs" continued to exist on the company's website for months.

I have no idea how anyone can think otherwise since many companies these days, brazen in how perfectly they control the system, will basically admit to this if pushed.
The whole fake job thing, or "we already have someone internal for this but we have to post it anyway" etc... is probably one of the most aggravating things to face as a job seeker. Especially since the job seeker usually does not know if the posting is legit or not, he/she will end up applying because at the end of the day you need a job so you apply.
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Old 02-22-2016, 02:03 AM
 
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There was a guy who applied on-line to a job and immediately was sent an email on how he wasn't qualified etc....

He was miffed because one, he had the exact experience needed, and two, it was like 10pm on a Sunday when he applied on-line.

He decided to look into it and wrote an article about it.

Turns out lots of companies have the application sorting software on some of their job listings to automatically reject everyone that applies. 100% rejection no matter how qualified you are.

Another tidbit, he was able to track down the manager of the department the job would be in and the manager had no idea and was livid about it since HR kept telling him there where no qualified applicants to hire for his opening.

People who work in HR today must drink a lot. They are screwing the employees just as much as the applicants.
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:31 AM
 
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The whole fake job thing, or "we already have someone internal for this but we have to post it anyway" etc... is probably one of the most aggravating things to face as a job seeker. Especially since the job seeker usually does not know if the posting is legit or not, he/she will end up applying because at the end of the day you need a job so you apply.
Another place I worked pulled that stunt regularly for senior and management positions. They picked a new department manager in April... and then posted the "job" listing in early May because they were legally obligated to play pretend and act like there was a job opening. So, they no doubt interviewed a bunch of unfortunate sods who thought they had a chance at the job; they didn't - the job never existed.
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Old 02-22-2016, 09:18 AM
 
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Unrelated but...

There is a FlameBroiler in my neighborhood that always has a "Help Wanted" sign in their sign. So finally I decided to go try and apply for the job, only to learn they had a longggg list of people that also came in to apply. I had to write my name and number on that list. I was told that they would call me. Month later and the sign is still up there.
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