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Old 04-14-2018, 10:56 AM
 
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The last couple of places I've consulted at have been Google Offices. There's some things I like, but I honestly hate Gmail and their spreadsheet is a joke. I do like how they can be integrated into things like zoom for meetings that seem easier to build smarter offices.

I'm wondering if this is just a Silicon Valley thing or if Google is getting tractions elsewhere?
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Old 04-14-2018, 11:39 AM
 
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We are a Microsoft shop. My outside vendors and all of my interagency contacts also use MS. I haven’t seen a google doc in years.
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Old 04-14-2018, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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I hope so. Current IT person....who specializes on Macs of all things...busted my balls for about an hour until he finally agreed to link up Outlook. I finally won by promising I would learn their system as they are "A Google Office" but he agreed that if I failed in what I'd been hired to do on account of IT being unable to provide adequate tools and I'm spending my time not on his project but on learning Google Office, that might look bad for us both.

I think it's coming from people wanting to work from home and Google accounts being more easily accessible...I hope Microsoft can come up with a free counter soon.
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Old 04-14-2018, 05:37 PM
 
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I’ve worked in IT my entire career and never been in a google office. Always Microsoft based. Not sure if that’s changing in other areas but where I am it is not the norm.
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Old 04-14-2018, 05:53 PM
 
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I’ve worked in IT my entire career and never been in a google office. Always Microsoft based. Not sure if that’s changing in other areas but where I am it is not the norm.
Same. The only entities I know of that use Google office are school districts to save themselves from the expense of Microsoft licensing
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Old 04-14-2018, 06:04 PM
 
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My current office (tech firm in NYC) uses Google. So did my previous one, but that one was Google.
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Old 04-14-2018, 07:16 PM
 
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Google is cheaper and better for collaboration and version control. Microsoft is better for everything else.
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Old 04-14-2018, 09:27 PM
 
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The last couple of places I've consulted at have been Google Offices. There's some things I like, but I honestly hate Gmail and their spreadsheet is a joke. I do like how they can be integrated into things like zoom for meetings that seem easier to build smarter offices.

I'm wondering if this is just a Silicon Valley thing or if Google is getting tractions elsewhere?

My experience has been that while Google Docs is free , it is of very limited functionality.

Many people tell will tell you that the Google spreadsheet is compatible with Microsoft Excel. Sometimes it is, but often it is not. Sure, you can do very simple spreadsheets and the like but the real functionality that makes MS Excel powerful is absent in Google.

I lived in the days when there was DR-DOS and MS-DOS and there were always claims that one version of DOS was compatible with another. And that was true ... until it wasn't.

My experience has been that often the people pushing this "alternative software" are the tech types who think that all software should be in the public domain without any compensation for its use.
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Old 04-14-2018, 10:50 PM
 
Location: NYC
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The last couple of places I've consulted at have been Google Offices. There's some things I like, but I honestly hate Gmail and their spreadsheet is a joke. I do like how they can be integrated into things like zoom for meetings that seem easier to build smarter offices.

I'm wondering if this is just a Silicon Valley thing or if Google is getting tractions elsewhere?
How is gmail bad? Have you used Microsoft's Outlook/Hotmail or Yahoo mail? Those are like signing up for spam mailbox. I always get complaints by users in the past how Microsoft Exchange Mail is slow and search is just terribly poor while it costs companies a fortune to manage it even with the Cloud such as Office 365 it is still slow and cumbersome. While Gmail seamlessly handles gigs of emails effortlessly and never needing an archive and search is just faster than any mail system out there.

Depends what your business is and size. Google Docs is simple for sharing data but it's not suitable for financial companies that needs serious number crunching or customizations. Just about any medium size businesses rely on templates and addons for Excel in
order to plug their data and run their models or processes.

I think Google Docs works best in academic places like colleges where students and Profs just need number manipulation, scientific research, and data crunching in a group setting. It makes data sharing very easy to do without all the hassles that MS Office has with OneDrive sharing. It also works great on mobile devices.
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Old 04-15-2018, 04:14 AM
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Location: Florida
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My experience has been that while Google Docs is free , it is of very limited functionality.
This is true. However, the question that that raises is whether Microsoft's additional functionality serves or sub-optimizes the business. There has been inadequate research so far to determine what percentage of enterprises have suffered from excessive focus on form over function from the richness of the tools.

We are currently switching from one issue tracking system to another. The old system is purpose-built, feature-rich, and rock solid. The new system is an application running on a platform, deliberately spartan, and rock solid. Oh, and it is a lot less expensive. It is doing the job just as well, and arguably more efficiently because we're spending less time capitalizing on the richness of the tool. Since it is no longer possible, no one can expect that anymore so we don't need to waste time doing it.

It probably would not be possible to prove the value proposition to the business from the ability to have endnotes at the end of each chapter instead of general footnotes, for example. Yet that's what would be necessary to prove that Microsoft Word is better than Google Docs (for example). People can wax poetically about what the richer product can let you do, but I bet 90% of the times they couldn't show how the richness adds to financial value delivered to customers, or reduced financial costs to the business, the only valid metrics for such things.

"Richness" may turn out to be a money pit two ways, in terms of licensing and support costs, and in terms of fostering a process that is anything but "Lean".
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