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Old 05-01-2019, 07:16 PM
 
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Is it normal for employers just to throw you into the work with only a crash course? I have seen this more and more lately.

How much time is really excepted to learn and do the process nowadays?
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Old 05-01-2019, 07:37 PM
 
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What type of process? In my world, people rise to the occasion. If you're having problems, ask questions and find resources for help and solutions.

Mod cut.

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Old 05-01-2019, 08:20 PM
 
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I hope it isn't in reference to the OP's recent new job.

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Old 05-01-2019, 08:20 PM
 
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What type of process? In my world, people rise to the occasion. If you're having problems, ask questions and find resources for help and solutions.

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I don't know about back in the day, but yes, I have worked for companies that used to have formal training departments that would assist in the onboarding of new hires.

And I'm not talking about things like 'how do I do basic math?', or 'how do I use Outlook?', or a number of other universal job skills. I'm talking about internal, proprietary processes and tools used in-house at a particular company that you can't simply Google or pull up tutorials on YouTube.

For any individual who has sought and attained upward mobility in their career, this is not a novel concept. If you're doing it right, then you'll have faced roles where things are new, foreign, or advanced from what you were doing before. If all you're doing is moving laterally and downwards in your career, then no, I don't expect that such an individual would understand what it's like to deal with learning new concepts in their new role. For those that have advanced in their careers, then you need to use the resources around you to learn the new role. Ask questions from those who've been doing it. It's okay to say, "I don't know, but let me find out". Anyone who says otherwise I would bet has bounced around in the same type of role, at the same level, for most of their careers. In many cases, employers are hiring you for your intangibles. If you have the tangible skills, that's great. But in many cases, especially when you're advancing or moving to a new line of work, they hired you because they think you're smart enough to pick up on the job while possessing other skills they may find useful (leadership, communication, problem solving, etc.)

So to your point, OP, yes, in a sense it boils down to sink or swim. But if your new employer had confidence in your ability to pick it up, then so should you.

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Old 05-01-2019, 08:39 PM
 
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I think some companies have reorgs to weed out the people who will not learn anything new.
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Old 05-02-2019, 01:42 AM
 
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God how I hate these threads that imply things were better "back in the day" without any evidence whatsoever, besides maybe anecdotal. OP, have you really had that many jobs or talked to that many people that makes you come to a reasonable conclusion that this "problem" is getting worse? As for me, in the 6 jobs I've had since graduating college, only one had a formal training program. All the rest just had someone trying to teach me but a lot of things I had to learn on the fly. Even the time need to get my basic job duties understood well enough where I didn't need assistance varied greatly.
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Old 05-02-2019, 03:50 AM
 
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I hope it isn't in reference to the OP's recent new job.

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So the real issue is the mental and emotional discomfort of being on a learning curve. Instead of facing and dealing with this normal period of insecurity, folks try to deflect back to the company with complaints about training.
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Old 05-02-2019, 04:59 AM
 
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OP,

Are you working with someone to pick up the skills? Or are you just dumped with the work with no directions given?

It is hard getting a job but it’s even harder to get settled and succeed in the new job. The workforce is cruel.
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Old 05-02-2019, 06:20 AM
 
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OP,

Are you working with someone to pick up the skills? Or are you just dumped with the work with no directions given?

It is hard getting a job but it’s even harder to get settled and succeed in the new job. The workforce is cruel.
Even if no instructions are given, folks can create their own training. I do agree that getting settled into a new job is difficult. However, what the OP may be feeling is normal when learning a new job.
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Old 05-02-2019, 07:06 AM
 
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In today's workforce, many companies expect their employees to take off running and start being productive from Day One. The employees are being paid wages and are expected to produce.

That is kinda insensitive, but the employers are paying for the talent and they get to call the shots.

"We hired you to do a job. So do it."

You either sink or swim.
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