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Old 09-07-2021, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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You have to think about what you want for a career. If the HS offer is a true administrative position, and you want to work in that sector, then you should jump on it. But I'm not sure what type of HR position you're offered. Make sure it is not a clerical position.

The part time college teaching job, or something similar, will probably still be there if this doesn't work out. But that kind of job alone goes nowhere and is not going to pay your bills.
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Old 09-07-2021, 10:34 AM
 
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Can you still adjunct evening classes? What kind of benefits (health, pension, etc.) are you getting from two part-time jobs?
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Old 09-07-2021, 10:36 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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They might be, it would depend on the state and school system. In my (former) system they were in a support staff union (don't remember the name).

But being unionized doesn't keep someone from being excessed at a work site or even laid off. We went through one Superintendent who abolished half the Library/Media Specialist positions in the system so over 100 people were laid off from those. Now, after one year those positions were reinstated and those people were called to return but most (over 90) had found jobs in other school systems or organizations so didn't come back. That was almost fifteen years ago and all those slots haven't been filled yet.

We had teachers excessed almost every year from schools but most found other slots elsewhere in other schools. The excesses were soaked up by retirements and resignations most times.

Support staff could be excessed if they weren't in a locked position (positions mandated by state law for each school. Those included a bookkeeper, Principal's Secretary, X number of Counselors per student, Registrar. Not included was an Attendance Secretary, that was usually the girlfriend of one of the Administrators). Security positions would be locked to meet the minimum with any excess being unlocked.

One way Principals could get rid of someone was to move them to an unlocked slot, that included teachers.
My experience with unions is, that if there's a budget cut that eliminates positions, or cuts some back to half time, or whatever, the union requires the employer to find another position for those people within the system. So if the Op were to get cut in one school, eventually the district would have to find her another position in their district, or the search might have to go city-wide. Apparently, though, teachers' unions don't work that way. My observations took place in a state university system that had a staff union.
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Old 09-07-2021, 10:38 AM
 
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I would not want an HR position in which I would have to interact or deal with a union for my position or any of the staff. That would eliminate a high school position in many locales.
It depends on the HR role. There are a lot of roles in HR in which an employee's union or non-union status don't matter. It would be wise to find out exactly what the role requires, as some HR roles are heavily involved with union issues.
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Old 09-07-2021, 10:39 AM
 
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You have to think about what you want for a career. If the HS offer is a true administrative position, and you want to work in that sector, then you should jump on it. But I'm not sure what type of HR position you're offered. Make sure it is not a clerical position.

The part time college teaching job, or something similar, will probably still be there if this doesn't work out. But that kind of job alone goes nowhere and is not going to pay your bills.
The OP can possibly maintain the college teaching job part time even when she works for the school. I know a lot of people people who work for the school system or in other public sector positions who teach a class or two at a college.
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Old 09-07-2021, 11:57 AM
 
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My experience with unions is, that if there's a budget cut that eliminates positions, or cuts some back to half time, or whatever, the union requires the employer to find another position for those people within the system. So if the Op were to get cut in one school, eventually the district would have to find her another position in their district, or the search might have to go city-wide. Apparently, though, teachers' unions don't work that way. My observations took place in a state university system that had a staff union.
My experience with school districts is that teacher positions usually work this way. They make every attempt to move teachers whose positions have been cut because of declining enrollment or budget cuts into another teaching slot at a different school in the district, if one is available.

However, when big budget cuts have been needed around here, central admin type positions are often some of the first slashed because parents hate the idea of their tax dollars paying for a bunch of curriculum writers, area specialists who never set foot in a classroom, and various other central admin positions while their kids are in an overcrowded classroom and teacher positions are being cut. Plus those positions are usually expensive.
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Old 09-07-2021, 12:26 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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My experience with school districts is that teacher positions usually work this way. They make every attempt to move teachers whose positions have been cut because of declining enrollment or budget cuts into another teaching slot at a different school in the district, if one is available.

However, when big budget cuts have been needed around here, central admin type positions are often some of the first slashed because parents hate the idea of their tax dollars paying for a bunch of curriculum writers, area specialists who never set foot in a classroom, and various other central admin positions while their kids are in an overcrowded classroom and teacher positions are being cut. Plus those positions are usually expensive.
Yeah, my (former) system does that with Central Office functionaries. Then they hire them back as consultants at a higher pay than if they'd kept them on the official payroll.

The Superintendent and Assistant Superintendents can then point to how they've cut head count. But no School Board member ever asks why payroll is now higher with fewer people and no raises.
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Old 09-07-2021, 02:11 PM
 
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So to answer some of your questions.

It's a non-union job. Located right in the high school. I would be maintaining HR functions for that school including hiring and such, not working with union. I'd also work with students, those who graduate and don't want to attend college. Helping them with getting a job.
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Old 09-08-2021, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Are those positions unionized, like the teacher positions?
Do we know which state this is in? Teachers are not unionized in all states.
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Old 09-08-2021, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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The college gig you have is a gig. Part-timers are not part of "the family" at any college. That job could go away if they feel like it.

The high school HR job is a real job. It'll be 8-4 during the school year, sounds like.
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