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Old 08-20-2014, 04:58 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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As the world globalises, enriches itself and competes on a grander scale I predict a new age of empires - China, US, India, SE Asia (read: ASEAN), EU, Russia (read: ex USSR), Latin America, Islamic block of the ME + North Africa, and Africa. There will be megacities for each region, not just competing on a global scale but within the region too, eg

Shanghai vs Guangzhou vs Beijing vs Chongqing vs Seoul vs Tokyo,
Jakarta vs Singapore vs Manila vs Bangkok,
London vs Paris vs Berlin
NYC vs LA,
Rio vs Sao Paulo vs Buenos Aires vs Mexico City
Lagos vs Kinshasa vs Johannesburg
Tehran vs Riyadh vs Dubai vs Cairo vs Baghdad
Delhi vs Kolkata vs Mumbai vs Karachi vs Dhaka


Also the future is definitely looking East these days. The largest cities in the world at the mo, there's only one Western city, NYC, barely in the top 15. In ten years it won't even be in the Top 20:


1. Guangzhou-Shenzhen 37 million contiguous, 44-60 million metro
2. Tokyo - 33 million contiguous, 39 million metro
3. Shanghai-Suzhou 30 million contiguous, 38 -48 million metro
4. Karachi - 23 million contiguous, 24 million metro
5. Seoul - 21 million contiguous, 26 million metro
6. Mexico City 20 million contiguous, metro 22.5 million
7. Jakarta - 19 million contiguous, at least 28 million metro (mega suburbs stretching beyond)
8. Delhi - 19 million contiguous, 25 million metro
9. Mumbai - 19 million contiguous, 21 million metro
10. Sao Paulo 18.8 million contiguous, metro 21 million
11. Cairo 18.2 million contiguous, metro 20.5 million
12. NYC 18.1 million contiguous, metro 20 million *
13. Osaka 18 million contiguous, metro 20 million
14. Lagos 17 million contiguous, metro 21 million
15. Beijing 16 million contiguous, metro 21 million

Smaller cities but with large metros:

Manila 12 million, metro 20.5 million
London 13 million, metro 18 million
Los Angeles 13 million, metro 18 million
Moscow 11.5 million, metro 18 million

*the NYC 'MSA' has 23 million but is way too loose a count compared to the other cities, considering it doubles the size of the CSA even, and relies on less than 5 percent commuting into the centre city. If other cities counted the same we would be seeing in populations of 60 million or more in Europe, Bangladesh, Egypt, China and India.
Los Angeles does not have anywhere near 13 million. the city has 3,904,657. The metro has 16,400,000 and the CSA has 17,786,419.
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Old 08-20-2014, 05:10 PM
 
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^the city boundaries are 4 million but the city contiguous (that's everything urban joined up together continuously) is 13 million. If you include the satellite towns and cities for hundreds of miles around who commute, and including large tracts of desert, farmland and mountain, that's 16 million.

If you double that area even, based on as low as 10% of the workforce who commute into the next town along (and nowhere near the central city) - talking about mainland Scotland in area by now - you arrive at the CSA population.
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Old 08-26-2014, 07:38 PM
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There is a beneficial main collective consciousness mindset in thinking about cities, and areas of the World without limited narrow minded biased tendencies towards thinking about only 1 city or location.

I prefer to focus on at least 5 cities to realize as all of the next most important cities in the World.

I bet those cities are Shanghai China, Melbourne Australia, Seoul South Korea, Taipei Taiwan, Singapore, Vienna Austria, San Francisco California USA, Chicago USA, and Hong Kong China to continue quickly emerging prominence, and a bright future to Global relevance of those cities, and deep, penetrating worldly infrastructure in nodes of connections to people all over Planet Earth.
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Old 08-26-2014, 10:04 PM
 
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There is a beneficial main collective consciousness mindset in thinking about cities, and areas of the World without limited narrow minded biased tendencies towards thinking about only 1 city or location.

I prefer to focus on at least 5 cities to realize as all of the next most important cities in the World.

I bet those cities are Shanghai China, Melbourne Australia, Seoul South Korea, Taipei Taiwan, Singapore, Vienna Austria, San Francisco California USA, Chicago USA, and Hong Kong China to continue quickly emerging prominence, and a bright future to Global relevance of those cities, and deep, penetrating worldly infrastructure in nodes of connections to people all over Planet Earth.
Why do you think Chicago and Melbourne will rise to be global cities?
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Old 08-29-2014, 09:49 AM
 
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If China will not fall independently in near future, the western world have enough power to show them who is the boss (historically and now) on this planet.

They live only because we buy their cheap plastic things. Because we are too much lazy, too much fed and too much spoiled to make all this things in our western countries by our own hands just for a 5-10$ a day. The 3d-printers can actually make the revolution in world's economy. So, yes, the next most important city is San Francisco, because Hewlett-Packard Company is somewhere there.
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Old 08-29-2014, 01:06 PM
 
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^cheap plastic things? That's a pretty outdated view of what sums up the Chinese economy- that kind of manufacturing has long moved down the value chain to places like Vietnam and Indonesia now. Whilst China is now the leading producer of hi tech, and the biggest patent applicator. It also produces the most scientific papers in the world - and as a measure of the quality of those papers - theyre also the most cited by other scientific papers.

You've got to remember the size of the population - 600,000 engineering graduates adding to the already hyper-competitive market every year for example (for comparison US churns out only 70,000 per year, at nearly half the rate per capita). For science that's another 900,000 graduates. It has also one of the world's best education systems (arguably the best) and vies with Korea and Japan for highest average IQ, and scoring.

Also the whole economy is now gearing toward domestic consumption, rather than export based.- Oh and China is now making 3D printed houses.

ps - you might also want to look up your history. China's 'rise' is more a readjustment back to the norm:


http://wanhasni.files.wordpress.com/...ison-chart.gif


The danger to China's economy is not so much in the nation's industrial machine, nor even reliance on exports (it adjusted very well to the global downturn for example), but the demographics, environment, and the possible property bubble. At current rates the population is projected to get old before they get rich, although the slow relaxation of the one child rule, and increasing immigration may change things. There is also even the danger, as it gets rich, of having to rely on imports - for example as more farmers give up the land more food needs to be imported, when once the country was self sufficient.

The final thing is the lack of democracy - great for building up an economy, but not so great in keeping the money made - 70% of the rich want to move abroad for starters, unless more conducive reforms are made.

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Old 08-29-2014, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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If China will not fall independently in near future, the western world have enough power to show them who is the boss (historically and now) on this planet.
Sadly the trend now is more like the other way around.
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