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Old 04-11-2011, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Brazil
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Some information about poverty in Moldova:

"Many Moldovans only manage to survive because they have relatives in the countryside who help them out with food grown on their own small farms. Furthermore, 800,000 people left Moldova in the past 10 years to go to the West and contribute remittences which are a vital for the famillies they have left behind at home."

"If you were to ask garment workers in Moldova about their woking conditions, they spontaneously decry the very low wages: the legal minimum wage in Moldova in Feb 2004 was €26 a month. This figure has not changed although it’s 2008."

Source: Moldova
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Old 04-11-2011, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Brazil
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Some very interesting videos about the situation in Moldova:








And an interesting "rap video" titled "Moldova's poverty":




Some sad images...
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:46 PM
 
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Most Jews that I have seen look closer to Europeans in phenotype than the average Venezuelan does that's for damn sure.

The Jewish Michael Douglas for example looks a hell of a lot more European than the Venezuelan Hugo Chavez or the Venezuelan baseball players that you playing here in the U.S.
Apples vs apples please.

You are comparing a light skinned US national vs a dark skinned venezuelan?

Why dont you pick Obama...

Michael jordan? Kobe? Lou Diamond Phillips?

Imagine If I compared Carolina Herrera (Venezuelan) vs Oprah? LOL same thing.. Unfair.

If you are going to make comparisons, you should be realistic.

And Michael Douglas???? The guy is 50% Russian Jewish and 50% Bermuda. He is not even a true jew. Jews are from Israel and they look like Adam Sandler.

If you put Adam Sandler in one of the most multirracial countries of spanish America, he would look very average.

As I said before, even an 8 year old could notice that Jews/Arabs and North Africans are different from Europeans.

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Old 04-11-2011, 10:20 PM
 
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Some very interesting videos about the situation in Moldova:








And an interesting "rap video" titled "Moldova's poverty":




Some sad images...
It's sad to watch what became of those former break-away Soviet Republics...
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Old 04-12-2011, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Brazil
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It's sad to watch what became of those former break-away Soviet Republics...
It's interesting to see that some Eastern Europe countries, like Slovenia and Czech Republic, are doing well, while others like Moldova and Ukraine are going very badly.
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Old 04-12-2011, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Parkridge, East Knoxville, TN
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My guesses before I saw your list were albania and moldova
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Old 04-12-2011, 12:14 PM
 
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Apples vs apples please.

You are comparing a light skinned US national vs a dark skinned venezuelan?

Why dont you pick Obama...

Michael jordan? Kobe? Lou Diamond Phillips?

Imagine If I compared Carolina Herrera (Venezuelan) vs Oprah? LOL same thing.. Unfair.

If you are going to make comparisons, you should be realistic.

And Michael Douglas???? The guy is 50% Russian Jewish and 50% Bermuda. He is not even a true jew. Jews are from Israel and they look like Adam Sandler.

If you put Adam Sandler in one of the most multirracial countries of spanish America, he would look very average.

As I said before, even an 8 year old could notice that Jews/Arabs and North Africans are different from Europeans.
The only way most Jews would look drastically different from Europeans would be if most Jews resembled darkskin Arabs like Osama Bin Laden. Most Jews don't look like that, especially not the Ashkenazi ones who most tend to be just as fairskin as any European Gentile.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:07 PM
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Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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The only way most Jews would look drastically different from Europeans would be if most Jews resembled darkskin Arabs like Osama Bin Laden. Most Jews don't look like that, especially not the Ashkenazi ones who most tend to be just as fairskin as any European Gentile.
Oh, is it just about skin shade? Millions of Arabs have pale skin. Ashkenazim are a population that has been in Europe for over 1,000 years. Although through some mixing, they have European traits, they also retain a lot of Semitic traits. Many Ashkenazim claim they can tell a European Jew from a European without the Semetic bloodline. I believe them.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:47 PM
 
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Oh, is it just about skin shade? Millions of Arabs have pale skin. Ashkenazim are a population that has been in Europe for over 1,000 years. Although through some mixing, they have European traits, they also retain a lot of Semitic traits. Many Ashkenazim claim they can tell a European Jew from a European without the Semetic bloodline. I believe them.

An Ashkenazi like William Shatner would blend in an a crowd of Anglo WASP's alot lot easier than the Arab Muammar Gaddafi, that's for damn sure.

I have confused many Ashkenazi's for WASP's. I have never confused an Arab for a WASP. The lightest skin Arabs resemble the darkest Europeans at best, like Greeks for example. The lightest skin Arabs still do not resemble the lightest skin Europeans like Germans or Dutch.
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Old 04-12-2011, 09:45 PM
 
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It's interesting to see that some Eastern Europe countries, like Slovenia and Czech Republic, are doing well, while others like Moldova and Ukraine are going very badly.
All these countries have different historical background, that's why their situations today are quite different. Czech Republic ( or former Bohemia) and Slovakia were really historically part of Europe, part of Austro - Hungarian Empire, so after (relatively short) amount of time in Eastern block, they went right back to where they belonged - to Central Europe. Both were generously provided with foreign investments ( German for the most part if I remember correctly.) Small countries, old cultures, nice European cities, - why not? Everything played right in their hands, so they flourish.
Moldova (or former Bessarabia) was never that lucky to begin with; even back in history it served as a vassal of Ottoman Empire. What good could come out of it? Russians ( or rather Soviet Union) was subsidizing it heavily during old days along with Central Asia and Caucasus, but once the Soviet days were gone, Moldova went back into wretched poverty - I don't think it was ever a wealthy country.
As for Ukraine - I don't know how this crazy idea of chopping a chunk of old Russia could work out for the best for anyone.
Ukraine is too big to be absorbed by Europe and too poor in terms of valuable resources to survive on its own. It used to be called "breadbasket" of Russia with its extremely fertile lands, so the constant exchange of goods between two parts of the country ( Russia and Ukraine) was essential for Ukraine's survival. Separating those two was definitely a bad idea, whoever came up with it first...
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