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Old 04-13-2011, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pennsylvania / Dull Germany
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You have to divide "Anti-America" and unavoidable criticism... in my personal opinion this is not disgusting but a sign of independence and intellectual spirit always to ask whether a certain military operation is necessary or whether american politics or society is doing lots of mistakes... America nowadays exists in many people who think liberty consists in driving pickups and shopping at walmart. I think liberty is the ability to think, to have access to unfiltered news, to see america as one single part of the world and always to reflect on what we do.

Come on, what did America good for the world in the last 25 years? Consuming all its ressources? Polluting all its air and water? Destroing countries, landscapes and anything else for oil, bananas and coffee? The truth is sometimes hard to acknowledge and we can't only believe what fox news and other national media say...

Actually, this has nothing to do with the topic any more..

There should be an authority to judge about international crime and terrorism but this authority should be independent from certain states and nations, like the IMF or the UN. A judgement must not be based on just a suspicious behavoir or any cia documents nobody can ever proof where its from. Every human, an Iraqi as well as an U.S. citizen, a Russian or a Chinese must have the same human rights and the same treatment when it comes to a judgement.
We can't only look at any person like "mhhh, dark skin, bristly beard... might be a terrorist, just lock him up in Guantanamo."
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Old 04-13-2011, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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I like this idea of an International Prison as long as the US gets to make all the decisions and France has to pay for all of it.
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Old 04-13-2011, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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I like this idea of an International Prison as long as the US gets to make all the decisions and France has to pay for all of it.
There is a second part to that. The US also has to continue its present policy of addressing all issues by saying "Our terms are not negotiable".
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Old 04-19-2011, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Winston-Salem
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That is one thing that does need to happen. Each country looks at a crime different and the punishment is different. With these terrorist. Death is what they want. We need to find what would curb this thinking. We need to come together as a people and figure out what will make them less apt to do such a crime.
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Old 04-19-2011, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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That is one thing that does need to happen. Each country looks at a crime different and the punishment is different. With these terrorist. Death is what they want. We need to find what would curb this thinking. We need to come together as a people and figure out what will make them less apt to do such a crime.
No it isn't. For the USA to leave them alone, is what they want. We can curb that thinking by abandoning our effort to turn every country in the world into a US slave-state where people work to produce profits for American corporations and at the same time embrace American cultural values. Including things like drugs, alcoholism, pornography, and casual extra-marital sex, which the "terrorists" are trying to keep out of their part of the world.

You are not part of the solution. You are part of the problem. In fact, you are the ENTIRE problem. They are here to kill YOU, and in their view, they have every right to, because you stand for the destruction of their entire culture. They will defend theirs, exactly as you would fight to the death to defend it. So doesn't that mean that death is what you want, too? As 5,491 Americans have already "fought to the death" to defend American values in the Middle East. As you so aptly put it, We need to come together as a people and figure out what will make Western Christians less apt to do such a crime. Yes, we do need to find what would curb this thinking. Start with yourself.

If "all they wanted to do was kill us", believe me, there are a billion of them, and they would be killing us in ways and in numbers that you can't imagine in your worst nightmares. And we have come very close to convincing them that that is the only way to defend themselves from us. And so far, their gentle and peaceful nature and their firmly held religious values and their ancient sense of honor are the only things stopping them.

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