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For the English-speaking world only, I'd say the intellectual capital is London. It's still the focal point of the greatest in literature, poetry, history and architecture, as well as where the basic government, legal and economic systems and concepts originate.
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I'm pretty old-school when it comes to defining an "intellectual"-----someone who speaks more than one language, has an understanding of history, literature, the arts and philosophy, as well as science, economics and mathematics. In other words, a well rounded individual academically. My choices in the U.S. would be Cambridge, Mass., Berkeley, California, Ann Arbor, Michigan, Princeton, N.J., and a few other college towns in the U.S.. I don't consider myself an "intellectual", but it is stimulating to live in the Washington (DC) area-----a town full of very bright people, most of whom I wouldn't consider true intellectuals, though.
<< the smarts and money to start new industries and businesses >>
Oh wow, that is so sad to be so limited as to look at this from an outdated capitalist perspective. I am much more interested in intellectuals who are working on social and societal issues or creating new art to uplift the human spirit.
I wouldn't believe in that [that china is on its way back to dominance] for a moment; no one have ever heard about "greatness of China" in the modern world, until the West brought the technology there...
Nobody heard about the greatness of the US until Europeans took their political, economic, intellectual and technological culture there - but that doesn't mean that America didn't dominate the 20th century.
Nobody heard about the greatness of Europe until various non-european ideas, inventions and discoveries - most notably food production techniques originating in the middle east, language and writing systems originating in south Asia, and principals of mathematics originating in the middle east - had been brought there.
Your mistake is a fundamental one - the great societies of the world - which are also, I would argue, the intellectual centres of the world - are those that assimilate ideas from far and wide.
<< the smarts and money to start new industries and businesses >>
Oh wow, that is so sad to be so limited as to look at this from an outdated capitalist perspective. I am much more interested in intellectuals who are working on social and societal issues or creating new art to uplift the human spirit.
Actually starting a new business and or helping to create a new industry can be as intellectually challenging and as creative as any art. That is probably why new industries such as hi-tech are usually centered in smart and creative centers such as San Francisco, Cambridge, Seattle. In addition, it is not a zero sum game. Just because you are trying to create and run a business does not mean you cannot also be concerned about society or trying to uplift humanity. For all his faults Bill Gates is a good example of this.
Interesting. Your unemployment data for Princeton doesn't make sense. What was your source? I could not find anything specific to Princeton but unemployment rate in Mercer County, NJ Is 8.5 percent
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Originally Posted by jtur88
In terms of the most people with higher degrees per capita, it would be some place like Hanover, New Hampshire, the site of the Ivy League's Dartmouth College:
Population over age 25:
Bachelor's degree or higher: 77.0%
Graduate or professional degree: 40.9%
Here are some others:
Ann Arbor MI
Bachelor's degree or higher: 69.3%
Graduate or professional degree: 39.4%
Princeton NJ
Bachelor's degree or higher: 60.1%
Graduate or professional degree: 39.6%
Cambridge MA
Bachelor's degree or higher: 65.1%
Graduate or professional degree: 38.5%
Los Alamos NM
Bachelor's degree or higher: 62.1%
Graduate or professional degree: 37.3%
Berkeley CA
Bachelor's degree or higher: 64.3%
Graduate or professional degree: 34.3%
Here's one of the funny things you discover when looking things up. For Princeton,, NJ,
Bachelor's degree or higher: 60.1%
Unemployed: 42.3%
Which means that everyone in Princeton over the age of 25 either has a bachelors degree, or is unemployed, or both.
I guess that is because it has been quite some time ago, plus we are not used to thinking globally and historically. We grow up thinking of ourselves as the permanent center of the world...
Nobody heard about the greatness of the US until Europeans took their political, economic, intellectual and technological culture there - but that doesn't mean that America didn't dominate the 20th century.
People who founded the US ARE Europeans, so your statement simply doesn't make sense.
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Nobody heard about the greatness of Europe until various non-european ideas, inventions and discoveries - most notably food production techniques originating in the middle east, language and writing systems originating in south Asia, and principals of mathematics originating in the middle east - had been brought there.
Your mistake is a fundamental one - the great societies of the world - which are also, I would argue, the intellectual centres of the world - are those that assimilate ideas from far and wide.
The greatness of Europe in the modern world came from technological advances - the kind that no one ever seen before and because of its social ideas.
Simply "assimilating ideas from far and wide" is not good enough - Russia is a good example of that. So it's not me who is making a *fundamental* mistake - sorry.
<< the smarts and money to start new industries and businesses >>
Oh wow, that is so sad to be so limited as to look at this from an outdated capitalist perspective. I am much more interested in intellectuals who are working on social and societal issues or creating new art to uplift the human spirit.
As I've already said, the idea that money and intellect walk hand in hand is mostly American train of thought.
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