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Old 09-08-2011, 12:31 AM
 
Location: England
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Then there's always the pesky pre-existing medical condition that means that you won't be able buy medical insurance in the US anyway.
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Old 09-08-2011, 12:47 AM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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The UNDP doesn't seem to put our health above any modern nation unless one counts Slovakia or Bahrain as modern.
Ever been there??
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Old 09-08-2011, 01:38 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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If you have insurance in the USA and your doctor orders an MRI every month, your insurance will pay for it without hesitation. If your doctor also owns a MRI lab, consider your chances better.
I think you need to go back to your doctor and have your medication levels checked(unless you are being facetious).

Your doctor would need to outline need for these monthly MRIs, which are VERY expensive.

Could you get a series of twelve over a short period to diagnose some ailment? Sure.

Not every health insurance company covers diagnostic MRIs in full.
Some have limits to quantity and frequency.
Some need prior approval.
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Old 09-08-2011, 01:39 AM
 
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Then there's always the pesky pre-existing medical condition that means that you won't be able buy medical insurance in the US anyway.
Not with the new Obamacare.
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Old 09-08-2011, 01:40 AM
 
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If you have health through an employer then it should be pretty cheap.

Medicaid and Medical are affordable also.

You do know about the Obamacare right? It was a historic bill that passed in the history of USA.

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Possibly the most inaccurate statement I have seen here.

While many countries have higher taxes than the USA, why does that mean the money goes to health care? US health care is the most expensive on earth, and by a frighteningly large margin!

Here is a shocking little fact: The American governement spend more money per citizen on health care than the governments of Japan, Australia, Norway, the United Kingdom, Spain, Italy, Canada or Switzerland. Of course, those countries get full UHC for their outlay.

In the USA, the citizens still have to get insurance, after paying more in taxes for their health care than those countries!
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Old 09-08-2011, 01:41 AM
 
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I think you need to go back to your doctor and have your medication levels checked(unless you are being facetious).

Your doctor would need to outline need for these monthly MRIs, which are VERY expensive.

Could you get a series of twelve over a short period to diagnose some ailment? Sure.

Not every health insurance company covers diagnostic MRIs in full.
Some have limits to quantity and frequency.
Some need prior approval.
I paid $0 for a $7,000 MRI.
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Old 09-08-2011, 01:42 AM
 
Location: 30-40°N 90-100°W
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Ever been there??
No. Is it real modern and developed? If so I apologize if I seemed to be slighting it. I just thought there was a tendency to see most of the former Communist states as less advanced, although they did place it as 31st in development. That's just below where they put Andorra, so I guess I was slighting it. Sorry.

So okay Slovakia is maybe the worst health in the developed world. Unless one considers the Bahamas to be in the developed world
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Old 09-08-2011, 01:56 AM
 
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If you have health through an employer then it should be pretty cheap.

Medicaid and Medical are affordable also.
Not really. Your employer pays a lot of the cost, which means lower wages for their employees. Medicare and Medicaid, along with IH and VA, are what costs the US government more, per citizen, than what those other nations spend to provide health care to all their citizens. They are only cheap by American standards, and American standards are operating in their own protected, special-circumstance bubble.

Look at this comparison of employee costs between Norway and the USA, and note how family health insurance outstrips all the other costs:

Employee costs compared

As for the rest....


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Old 09-08-2011, 02:24 AM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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The whole system is sick! The medications are grossly overpriced (even those cheap ones, made in India and China), the insurance co-payments sucks, the referrals are a main PITA, add to that inappropriate or unnecessary procedures, labs and scans (many of them defective or with errors), and notorious overcharged bills - double, triple billing for the same procedure or service never provided.
The emergency rooms are full of people that do not need to be there.
Great medications that are already working and helping patients in other countries are tested for 20+ years, and then became old news. New meds are on the market too soon, and then recalled.
Healthcare facilities are coding the same procedure or diagnosis in several different ways to get the most money of it; charging for equipment/supplies never ordered, or meds never given.
Pharmaceutical reps are bribing and pushing meds/equipment that is unnecessary, not different or better.
Patients get wrong diagnoses, treatments; infections are common, medication errors are daily occurrence. Healthy patients are bad for business.
Medicare/Medicaid billing is the top of a fraud and scam you can't even imagine - just about that, I could write a book. And don't let me start to write about greedy, corrupt and wasteful health insurance industry.
Patients has to fight the errors in hospital billing, then errors in insurance billing and try to understand and navigate the insurance maze - all the contracts, authorizations, denials, appeals, reviews, forms to complete and endless phone calls to make. Otherwise even the insured will get buried in medical debt. (it fascinates me that these errors always seem to favor the insurance companies, never the patient.)
I could go on and on with that. I work there.
So, please do not tell me how great the American healthcare is and how cheap and accessible for everyone. Yes, we have beautiful hospitals, state of the art equipment, knowledgeable doctors but that does not make the system great.
People who have experienced health care in other countries (like I have) are the ones who are amazed at how awful the US system is, because only they realize how much better it can be, and is elsewhere.
I don't say that there is a perfect healthcare somewhere else, but others have been doing better, and I believe we can, and should, too.
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Old 09-08-2011, 03:01 AM
 
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Lol, cost of flight, hotel, food, etc too.
LOL, yourself. Priced it, done it....Barcelona, Hospital QuirĂ³n. An extremely complicated spine surgery.

The cost - including ALL OF THE ABOVE - was $30,000 cheaper than what I found in the U.S., in an ultra-modern hospital, private room with huge bath and a sitting room with a sofa bed for family or friends and an extremely attentative and friendly staff. The cost also included a week-long stay in a gorgeous hotel in a wonderful little neighborhood while I had physiotherapy. (I will admit that I did have to pay for the taxis from the hotel to the hospital.)
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