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Old 12-01-2014, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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I think the most extreme of both Canada and Australia are fairly equally harsh.

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Agreed!! Its kinda silly endlessly debating which is more harsh when well over 90% of either's population don't live in such conditions because they simply don't have to!
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Old 12-01-2014, 06:10 PM
 
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I agree 100% with everything you are saying, but it is a fool's errand to debate this topic with people from Finland and Canada, both among the very coldest places on earth with a population of any significance. I have my doubts that the average world citizen would even consider living in Canada after actually experiencing for themselves the true harshness of the climate, but when it comes to people already from the coldest parts of the world it is just what they are accustomed to.
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I think most would agree that Australia's year round weather is more agreeable to most people - all things being equal but Australia isn't going to be able to take in every immigrant in the world will it? Besides, according to you they'd be technologically challenged compared to living in Canada or the U.S haha....

Anyhoo - The point about most people in the world not wanting to live in Canada because you get 4 months of winter weather is silly! How is the weather in Montreal and Toronto (especially Toronto where almost half of Canada's immigrants are going and the city with the developed worlds highest per capita immigration rate btw lol) from April - November in all seriousness? Why would they want to live in NYC or Chicago either - sure not as cold as Toronto or Montreal but lets face it, if you live in Chicago or NYC or Boston you ARE going to need a winter coat and you are going to get several snowstorms of size in a common winter! So most people in the world would literally give a body part away to live in places like NYC, Toronto, Montreal, Chicago etc. Some of you guys are making it out that everyone in Canada lives in Iqualuit or Whitehorse...

Look at what the average person in the world has to go through in their day to day lives and I think you know the answer hobbes - a few months with Cold and snow is a small price to pay for living in a country with a high HDI.. Go to Tunisia and find out how its like to be Gay 24/7/365 Hobbes, but hey the weather is more agreeable so its alright!!?? Go to any number of Muslim/African or even just be an average person in China or India for awhile - walk the streets of Mumbai - Sure better weather than Toronto year round but would you rather be an average person in Toronto or Mumbai just because of cold and some snow for 4 months.. Countries like Canada, Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark are almost always in the top 10 list of nations with the highest standard of living and QOL - GO NORTHERN TIGERS!

Speaking of snow and cold Hobbes - why do you live in Maryland and not Tucson? Why would anyone want to live in Maryland when this happens - OMG the horror... lol

http://weblogs.marylandweather.com/2..._looks_li.html

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Old 12-01-2014, 06:20 PM
 
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But north of these cities there are no significant population centers, and it is due to climate more than anything.
Which is changing thanks to Global Warming.. For us NORC's - looks like we may very well get the last 'laugh'

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Old 12-01-2014, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Weather is a personal thing. I for one wouldn't like the bitter cold, especially if it went on for more than 2 months, but then again, I don't like intense heat for long periods of time.

That said, I just came back from a lovely walk in 2C and it invigorated me. Chilly air can do that.

As for tourist destinations..well Quebec City is pretty full in winter and Whistler is filled with Australians during the winter months.
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Old 12-01-2014, 06:34 PM
 
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You are correct here. Its true that people will actually move and live in Phoenix just for weather but no one lives in Helsinki just for weather. Dont forget San Diego and Los Angeles which is a very desert climate. I know a few people who have bought properties in Sicily and the Mediterranean just for the weather. But who buys property in Nunavut just for the weather? If Hawaii had Helsinki weather would it be a booming tourist location? No it would lose almost the entire population and be like the Faroe islands.
Plenty of colder climate places are actually very interesting in terms of urbanity and cultural/things to do.. In Canamerica for instance - Pheonix, , Houston, Atlanta and Dallas all have better year round weather than Montreal, Toronto, NYC and Chicago but we in N.A all know which are the more interesting cities lol... Even Hobbes would have to admit that Montreal is WAY more fun and interesting than Pheonix

You'd have to be a granny to enjoy palm springs for any length of time...

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Old 12-01-2014, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Plenty of colder climate places are actually very interesting in terms of urbanity and cultural/things to do.. In Canamerica for instance - Pheonix, , Houston, Atlanta and Dallas all have better year round weather than Montreal, Toronto, NYC and Chicago but we in N.A all know which are the more interesting cities lol... Even Hobbes would have to admit that Montreal is WAY more fun and interesting than Pheonix

You'd have to be a granny to enjoy palm springs for any length of time...
True. Very true. Palm Springs is boring. If you golf fine. Even after a few days you run out of good restaurants to go to.

I was there in October since I hadn't been in years and several of my friends ( old grannies ) have bought down there since the market collapsed. I enjoyed laying by the pool, but that really was all there was to do.

Many people I talked to were getting concerned about the water, or lack of it...but they keep building more condo's and houses....
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:22 PM
 
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True. Very true. Palm Springs is boring. If you golf fine. Even after a few days you run out of good restaurants to go to.

I was there in October since I hadn't been in years and several of my friends ( old grannies ) have bought down there since the market collapsed. I enjoyed laying by the pool, but that really was all there was to do.

Many people I talked to were getting concerned about the water, or lack of it...but they keep building more condo's and houses....
I have nothing against grannies and grandpas Nat - I very much hope to make it to be one in my life lol... I'm putting away enough money for that pleasure.. Having said that - 'mature' and seasoned individuals have a pretty large part to play in the Condo booms in cities like Toronto and Vancouver.. They get rid of the large suburban house because the kids have all grown up and buy that condo in the core so they can be closer to cultural and urban activities

They did their part for king and country - now its time to enjoy the fruits of their labour and all the power to em! They may even go down to Florida or Arizona for a few months of the year - but they live 8 months of the year in exciting and urban places. I know i'd be MUCH happier in Vancouver most of the year over Palm Springs!

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Old 12-01-2014, 07:34 PM
 
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You'd have to be a granny to enjoy palm springs for any length of time...
There are plenty things to do in Palm Springs and surroundings...
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:39 PM
 
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There are plenty things to do in Palm Springs and surroundings...
Can you do numerous activities in an urban playground like this? I can do things like this practically all year round... All I need is a metro pass and 20 minutes of my time on the tube and i'm right there and don't need to drive 2 hours to L.A or San Diego..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqFyoR-4ULw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcCnU26cy4w
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Old 12-01-2014, 08:02 PM
 
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Can you do numerous activities in an urban playground like this? I can do things like this practically all year round... All I need is a metro pass and 20 minutes of my time on the tube and i'm right there and don't need to drive 2 hours to L.A or San Diego..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqFyoR-4ULw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcCnU26cy4w

Palm Springs is relatively small but it has a lot going on when it comes to entertainment....and you are at driving distance from LA, San Diego and everything in between.
Lots of outdoor opportunities as well.
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