Australia or Canada? (dinner, place, average)

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by saturno_v

Yes, as we said before nobody here is stating that you cannot technically swim in the water in some places in Canada......the same for skiing, you can technically ski in Australia and you do have mountains....but I would not dare to compare the Snowy Mountains of Australia to the Rockies so please do not compare the great lakes beaches with Australia beaches...that's all....

I get your point but skiing is a bit different from a beach though in that the size of the mountain and snowfall make a big difference in the skier's experience. Good beach conditions are much easier to achieve: warm water is warm water, sun is sun, sand is sand.

But a small hill as opposed to a really big mountain is not the same thing at all.

Vertical drop at Whistler is 1500 m. At Tremblant it's maybe about 800 m. At Perisher it's about 350 m. And we aren't even talking about the reliability of snowfall yet.

[saturno_v]

Originally Posted by Acajack

I get your point but skiing is a bit different from a beach though in that the size of the mountain and snowfall make a big difference in the skier's experience. Good beach conditions are much easier to achieve: warm water is warm water, sun is sun, sand is sand.

You see, probably because you are not born in a warm southern locale you cannot easily see the difference that is so evident to me and Hobbesdj and many others.

No, water is not water, sun is not just sun and sand is not sand.


Sand consistency
Colors of everything (sand, water, seabed, sky)
Marine life.
Current, waves
Sunset colors
Fragrance in the air in many southern locations, even the odor of the ocean is different.
Pass me the term, the "quality" of the heat itself....in certain locales I can comfortable be in my swim trunks after sunset laying on the beach very happily...even in the middle of the summer in coastal BC or in Washington or Oregon at night it gets chilly and at the first whiff of wind you need more clothing....a daily peak of 30+ in Vancouver or Seattle is not a constant 30 in San Diego.....

In summer I go to a nice cove along Lake Washington for a dip (a quick very quick dip)...it is actually a very nice place, beautiful scenery....but it has nothing to do with a proper beach...it's like comparing a Chevy Malibu to a Corvette...they have both 4 wheels, they can take you from A to B, they are both Chevrolets and they may even share few components...and actually the Malibu is more comfortable...this is where the analogy stops.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by saturno_v

You see, probably because you are not born in a warm southern locale you cannot easily see the difference that is so evident to me and Hobbesdj and many others.

No, water is not water, sun is not just sun and sand is not sand.


Sand consistency
Colors of everything (sand, water, seabed, sky)
Marine life.
Current, waves
Sunset colors
Fragrance in the air in many southern locations, even the odor of the ocean is different.
Pass me the term, the "quality" of the heat itself....in certain locales I can comfortable be in my swim trunks after sunset laying on the beach very happily...even in the middle of the summer in coastal BC or in Washington or Oregon at night it gets chilly and at the first whiff of wind you need more clothing....a daily peak of 30+ in Vancouver or Seattle is not a constant 30 in San Diego.....

In summer I go to a nice cove along Lake Washington for a dip (a quick very quick dip)...it is actually a very nice place, beautiful scenery....but it has nothing to do with a proper beach...it's like comparing a Chevy Malibu to a Corvette...they have both 4 wheels, they can take you from A to B, they are both Chevrolets and they may even share few components...and actually the Malibu is more comfortable...this is where the analogy stops.

Once again this is mostly personal preference.

Your comments about sand reminded me of how so many of the most famous beaches (such as on the Mediterranean) are actually pebbles (in French we say galets) as opposed to fine sand. I don't find that that provides a great beach experience for me, regardless of how awesome the scenery is in the surroundings.

Thankfully in Australia it's beautiful soft sand generally...

[saturno_v]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Once again this is mostly personal preference.

No it's the personal preference of the vast majority of people that hear the words "beach life".

Ask to 10 people what places comes to mind when you say "beach vacation"...the Great Lakes, Nova Scotia, BC or Australia/Florida, the Caribbean, etc... and wait for the results.

[artemis agrotera]

Originally Posted by Acajack

I've been to Bondi, I've been to Surfers Paradise. They are nice beaches for sure but I still maintain there's nothing that spectacular about Bondi as shown in the video for example compared to Wasaga or Sandbanks. Or Parlee Beach at Shediac or Brackley or Cavendish on PEI.

Now... Cape Tribulation in northern Queensland. Now you're talking.

Eh, Bondi is nothing special.
Yes, Cape Tribulation... there are so many better beaches than Bondi.
My favourite beach, has a national park running alongside. I can be the only person for miles.... one thing we do have is incredible beaches.

[saturno_v]

Originally Posted by artemis agrotera

Eh, Bondi is nothing special.

Nothing special compared to what?? It's an city beach, you cannot expect to be empty and along a national park
I take Bondi or Cronulla over any beach in Canada...

[fusion2]

Originally Posted by saturno_v

No it's the personal preference of the vast majority of people that hear the words "beach life".
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Can some PLEASE tell me what "beach life" is - sounds like people who have no job or goals in life... It would be the same as living the Ski life... Aside from a professional skier - I don't know anyone who lives the Ski life in Canada... People who teach people to ski possibly.. Do people in Australia go to the beach at lunch time or go to the beach after work/school?... Every weekend do most Australian people live at the beach... ??

[saturno_v]

Originally Posted by fusion2

Can some PLEASE tell me what "beach life" is -

Finish your working day, going for a swim, surfing, or any other sea/beach sport activities, sipping a drink basking in the sun, a fire after sunset in your swim trunks, etc

[fusion2]

Originally Posted by saturno_v

Nothing special compared to what?? It's an city beach, you cannot expect to be empty and along a national park
I take Bondi or Cronulla over any beach in Canada...

Yes Australia has nicer beaches than Canada and Canada has bigger mountains... Yippie..

[artemis agrotera]

Originally Posted by saturno_v

Nothing special compared to what?? It's an city beach, you cannot expect to be empty and along a national park
I take Bondi or Cronulla over any beach in Canada...

errr. Yeah I know that. Its nothing special compared to other beaches in Australia.

Its an average beach. Its a city beach, its over-crowded. Bondi - Bronte walk is the best thing about it.

And, Canada has things we do not have. Its a very naturally beautiful country. I think its pointless to compare, really.