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Old 11-25-2014, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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When Chevy attempts to make a point, his really sharp stick has a less than 1 micron tip. LOL. Hope they peruse this thread.
I kinda like Chevy so I hope they don't!
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Old 11-25-2014, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Yes. Yes, I am.

I was told, more than a few times, that I had to work eight hours on Saturday. And eight hours on Sunday. All unpaid. It was either that, or lose my job.

There's a reason I decided to go to law school and become a lawyer: because I got fed up with employers ordering my friends and I around at work, and telling us what we won't receive, without legal basis.

Now, I work for ordinary Joes making sure that their rights under the appropriate legislation are upheld.

Toronto is a fine city, and if you have a good job there, with an understanding employer, good for you. I worked for a lot of high-tech startups, whose founders (engineers, who forgot that the "real people" who work for them are not engineers and who only look forward to their next paycheque) felt that everybody should feel the passion they do, and work for free.

Nah. Didn't work that way. As I said, I became a lawyer, who now works for employees--and I delight in putting those @#$%^& engineers in their place when they fire one of my clients without legal cause.
Well neither one of us can claim to know the majority of employer's and employee experiences in a city the size of Toronto.. It could be that specific industries or companies (just so happens you have direct experience with them) are a bunch of slave drivers.. I think the most likely conclusion however is that most employee's who work for most companies work traditional hours in the city.. O/T would also apply to most employee's who would be 'forced' to work additional hours. The vast majority of people I know, friends/colleagues and even people in my building work traditional hours.. We leave about the same time for work and come home around the same time.

As for IBM, my company actually contracts out work to them and they certainly have traditional hours most of the time. There are 'on call' technicians and specialists but they do so on a rotating basis and they most certainly get on call pay and O/T if they go above standard hours in a week - its built into their contract.. Again, this isn't to say that your specific experiences are incorrect, but they don't apply to everyone even within that corporation let alone entire industries.

Let me be clear, i'm not trying to invalidate your own experiences - i'm just trying to get you to open your perspective to the very likely possibility that most people don't work more than 40-45 hrs per week and if there are those who do - O/T pay/on call pay most likely would apply. Its very easy to allow your own personal experiences to broad brush stroke an entire industry or city..

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Old 11-25-2014, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK/Swanage, UK
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Why is this a question? Everyone is going to go for Australia because it's a far better country, plus hardly any of it has a proper winter, Canada is to brutal... Would like to see Canada but not live in it... Aus, well, that's my future home!
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Old 11-25-2014, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Northern Ireland
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Austraila isn't a better country.

Its far away.. Not worth it.
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Old 11-25-2014, 05:06 PM
 
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Why is this a question? Everyone is going to go for Australia because it's a far better country, plus hardly any of it has a proper winter, Canada is to brutal... Would like to see Canada but not live in it... Aus, well, that's my future home!
They're pretty much the same. Other than those winters

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Austraila isn't a better country.

Its far away.. Not worth it.
Far away, from what?
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Old 11-25-2014, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK/Swanage, UK
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Austraila isn't a better country.

Its far away.. Not worth it.
It's worth it in every way! Perfect in every way! Bigger than Britain in landmass in every way! Better weather in every way! My goodness... It's just worth it!
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Old 11-25-2014, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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It's worth it in every way! Perfect in every way! Bigger than Britain in landmass in every way! Better weather in every way! My goodness... It's just worth it!
lol well we all have our preferences and I think the majority of people would agree - Australia has better weather on the whole.. Having said that you say Australia is bigger than Britain, this is true and Canada is even bigger still than Australia
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Old 11-25-2014, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Northern Ireland
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Well you are allowed your opinion but I think for once Canada would be better due to its proximity. If you live there going home won't cost lots and be a pain.

Also larger than Aus.
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Old 11-25-2014, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK/Swanage, UK
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lol well we all have our preferences and I think the majority of people would agree - Australia has better weather on the whole.. Having said that you say Australia is bigger than Britain, this is true and Canada is even bigger still than Australia
At least most of it is tundra!!! Ohhh, got you there!
(Not that like 90% of Aus is Desert or anything... ) haha
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Old 11-25-2014, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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At least most of it is tundra!!! Ohhh, got you there!
(Not that like 90% of Aus is Desert or anything... ) haha
Actually even the areas of Canada that are not tundra including the Great Lakes and Saint Lawrence lowlands, large swaths of the Canadian Shield, Interior Plains, Appalachian Mounties and the Western Cordillera is a huge expanse of land and larger than most countries in the world.

As for Australia and deserts - well you said it lol and as you know that area is just as sparse and barren as the Canadian north. As a matter of fact, Canada is more urban than Australia. There are many more cities between 100K and 500K people and 90% of the 36 million people in Canada live within 200 miles of the U.S border.
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