Would you consider Middle Easterners white? (military, pool, estimated)
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According to DNA studies, the presence of Middle Easteners markers in scarce in the Iberian peninsula but very abondant in Italy.
The presence of Middle Easteners in Western Europe dates back to the Roman Empire.
During the Roman Empire, Middle Easteners (called Greco-Syrians) were all important as merchantmen and intellectuals in Western Europe. There were very large communities, but they were Christians and they became part of the local population. Jews did not merge with the population.
Greco-Syrians melted into the European population and left no trace, only today, thanks to DNA we know of their importance.
A white/black baby in 98% of cases will clearly show the black features, even if the color of skin will be much lighter than usual. Black genes are more dominant - as simple as that.
Dark hair/dark eyes are more dominant in Europeans as well, comparably to blond hair/blue eyes by the way too.)
I still don't understand how/why ancestry "doesn't have anything to do with it," because you carry the genes of your ancestors.
Because the word "back" and the word "white" do denote colors. Simple. And you haven't seen many mixed children, I guess. It is more often that you think. You must be living in China or something.
What's there is to fight about?
Do you even UNDERSTAND what I was saying? Obviously, my point was that people still call those two persons black, even though they differ in their appearance and obviously have different "mixtures", if you will. So, it's not unreasonable to call a lot of Arabs white. I even explained it refers to the appearance rather than the ancestry. People will call somebody black just based on their appearance (and vice versa). I usually don't have a DNA testing kit on me, you know.
In the U.S., the word brown is not used, so white and black are the only actual colors used to describe people. For instance, I do know that Brazil does use the word brown on its census and everybody who is brown is supposed to check that box. From what I was told, it does not refer to the ancestry of people but to their appearance. That's just another example.
No, being white does not mean to be "blonde and pale" - Europeans for the most part are a mixture of different European tribes, that's why there is a big variety of European looks.
And if you are a Black person of a much lighter complexion - chances are you have some white ancestors in your background, so what?
Uh, never-mind. You obviously do not understand what I was saying. Read it again, please.
PS. Of course Beyonce Knowles had plastic operation. Just look at her nose and lips. She wanted to look more "white," since her skin color was already lighter than usual. Again - so what? I mean what's new about it?
Wtf? Beyonce Knowles had her skin bleached? Really... You are talking about things like getting a nose job done or whatever ( I don't even know if she had any plastic surgeries ). Like this changes the complexion of your skin. LOL. Michael Jackson, on the other hand, did have his skin bleached to cover up the beige colored patches he had due to vitiligo. So NOT the same.
Again, I am talking about the appearance of people and folks usually using whatever word that seems to fit their appearance. It's quite possible that those white Arabs do have European ancestry. Historical events like the Ottoman Empire probably caused a lot of movements.
According to DNA studies, the presence of Middle Easteners markers in scarce in the Iberian peninsula but very abondant in Italy.
The presence of Middle Easteners in Western Europe dates back to the Roman Empire.
During the Roman Empire, Middle Easteners (called Greco-Syrians) were all important as merchantmen and intellectuals in Western Europe. There were very large communities, but they were Christians and they became part of the local population. Jews did not merge with the population.
Greco-Syrians melted into the European population and left no trace, only today, thanks to DNA we know of their importance.
Haplogroup G is also split between Europe and the Mid East. The group got into the eastern Mediterranean, and part of them went east into Iran and Pakistan, and part of them went northwest into Europe.
Romans were uncouth and ignorant, they very good at negotiating and very stubborn.
Most of the technicians, engineers, accountants, a large part of all the merchantmen, shipchandlers, insurers, etc, were "Hellenistic Greeks".
So you are going to find them everywhere where the Roman presence was important. Of course, Phoenicians from Gades and Carthagineans were also Middle Easteners.
There were also present in modern day Wales, a very important place for them because of tin.
I believe that the anthropological definitions are far more accurate than those invented by the common man and are subject to skin color or ethnicity only.
In the 1950's I grew up in Rochester New York in which has a large Italian population. We were considered something less than white by our Anglo-Irish-Germanic neighbors. When I was 14 we moved to Los Angles California and lo and behold I was suddenly white. Riddle me that!!!!!
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LOL. Michael Jackson, on the other hand, did have his skin bleached to cover up the beige colored patches he had due to vitiligo. So NOT the same.