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Old 02-05-2012, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC NoVA
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if new orleans was nyc's size, new orleans would have about 5,000 murders.

"Juarez is no longer world king of homicides as it drops to second spot, so says a Mexican study group called the Citizens Council for Public Safety and Criminal Justice. The findings were released this week that reveals Juarez has lost its number one spot after three years, replaced by San Pedro Sula, Honduras.

Homicides rates are predicated by homicides per 100,000 residents. 40 of the 50 most violent cities in the world are in Latin America according to the study.

It is no surprise to learn that Mexico holds 5 of the top 10 spots or 12 in the top 50. What is slightly surprising is that 45 of the 50 top spots are in the Americas and of those 40 in Latin America.

Of the 50:
Mexico tallies at 12, Brazil 14, Colombia 5.

As for the U.S., the most dangerous US city “honors” goes to New Orleans and the city comes in 21st in the world with a murder rate of 58. Detroit ranked 30th with 48, St. Louis 43rd with 35 and Baltimore sliding into the 48th spot with 31 murders per capita."
Juarez no longer world homicide king as it drops to second place*|*U.S. Open Borders

1. San Pedro Sula, Honduras
KILLINGS: 1,143 | POPULATION: 719,447 | RATE: 158.87

2. Juarez, Mexico
KILLINGS: 1,974 | POPULATION: 1,335,900 | RATE: 147.77

3. Maceió, Brazil
KILLINGS: 1,564 | POPULATION: 1,156,278 | RATE: 135.26

4. Acapulco, Mexico
KILLINGS: 1,029 | POPULATION: 804,412 | RATE: 127.92

5. Central District, Honduras
KILLINGS: 1,123 | POPULATION: 1,126,534 | RATE: 99.69

6. Caracas, Venezuela
KILLINGS: 3,164 | POPULATION: 3,205,463 | RATE: 98.71

7. Torreón, Mexico (metropolitan area)
KILLINGS: 990 | POPULATION: 1,128.152 | RATE: 87.75

8. Chihuahua, Mexico
KILLINGS: 690 | POPULATION: 831,693 | RATE: 82.96

9. Durango, Mexico
KILLINGS: 474 | POPULATION: 593,389 | RATE: 79.55

10. Belém, Brazil
KILLINGS: 1,639 | POPULATION: 2,100,319 | RATE: 78.04

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Old 02-05-2012, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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New York is really safe considering its immense size - New Orleans is a sorry excuse of a city IMO by the looks of things
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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I never knew Acapulco, Mexico and Curitiba, Brazil were dangerous, heard they got a lot of tourism over there.


Position City Country Homicide People Rate
1 San Pedro Sula Honduras 1.143 719.447 158.87
2 Juarez Mexico 1.974 1,335,890 147.77
3 Maceió Brazil 1.564 1,156,278 135.26
4 Acapulco Mexico 1.029 804.412 127.92
5 Central District Honduras 1.123 1,126,534 99.69
6 Caracas Venezuela 3.164 3,205,463 98.71
7 Torreón (metropolitan) Mexico 990 1,128,152 87.75
8 Chihuahua Mexico 690 831.693 82.96
9 Durango Mexico 474 593.389 79.88
10 Belém Brazil 1.639 2,100,319 78.04
11 Cali Colombia 1.720 2,207,994 77.90
12 Guatemala Guatemala 2.248 3,014,060 74.58
13 Culiacan Mexico 649 871.620 74.46
14 Medellin Colombia 1.624 2,309,446 70.32
15 Mazatlan Mexico 307 445.343 68.94
16 Tepic (metropolitan area) Mexico 299 439.362 68.05
17 Vitoria Brazil 1.143 1,685,384 67.82
18 Veracruz Mexico 418 697.414 59.94
19 Ciudad Guayana Venezuela 554 940.477 58.91
20 San Salvador El Salvador 1.343 2,290,790 58.63
21 New Orleans United States 199 343.829 57.88
22 Salvador (and RMS) Brazil 2.037 3,574,804 56.98
23 Cucuta Colombia 335 597.385 56.08
24 Barquisimeto Venezuela 621 1,120,718 55.41
25 San Juan Puerto Rico 225 427.789 52.60
26 Manaus Brazil 1.079 2,106,866 51.21
27 São Luís Brazil 516 1,014,837 50.85
28 Nuevo Laredo Mexico 191 389.674 49.02
29 João Pessoa Brazil 583 1,198,675 48.64
30 Detroit United States 346 713.777 48.47
31 Cuiabá Brazil 403 834.060 48.32
32 Recife Brazil 1.793 3,717,640 48.23
33 Kingston (metropolitan) Jamaica 550 1,169,808 47.02
34 Cape Town South Africa 1.614 3,497,097 46.15
35 Pereira Colombia 177 383.623 46.14
36 Macapá Brazil 225 499.116 45.08
37 Fortress Brazil 1.514 3,529,138 42.90
38 Monterrey (metropolitan area) Mexico 1.680 4,160,339 40.38
39 Curitiba Brazil 720 1,890,272 38.09
40 Goiânia Brazil 484 1,302,001 37.17
41 Nelson Mandela Bay Metropolitan Municipality (Port Elizabeth) South Africa 381 1,050,930 36.25
42 Barranquilla Colombia 424 1,182,493 35.86
43 ST. Louis United States 113 319.294 35.39
44 Mosul Iraq 636 1,800,000 35.33
45 Belo Horizonte Brazil 1.680 4,883,721 34.40
46 Panama Panama 543 1,713,070 31.70
47 Cuernavaca (metropolitan area) Mexico 198 630.174 31.42
48 Baltimore United States 195 620.961 31.40
49 Durban South Africa 1.059 3,468,087 30.54
50 City of Johannesburg South Africa 1.186 3,888,180 30.50

I expected Johannesburg (50), Cape Town (34), Kingston (33) to be a lot higher. and San Juan (25) to be lower.

btw where is Rio de Janeiro, Bogota and Port-Au-Prince?
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:05 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Wow, I didn't realize Brazil was that bad.
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Northeast of Brazil
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Now, show me the statistics of how many people WITHOUT CRIMINAL RECORD were killed in each city...

I can bet that 85% of the victims had criminal record, and previous involvement with criminal activities, mainly drug trafficking...
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Northeast of Brazil
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Wow, I didn't realize Brazil was that bad.
No, it ISN'T that bad.

The statistics are a big lie.

I never knew someone who was murdered, in my entire life. My father, who is 70 years old, never knew someone in his entire life who was murdered. In my whole extended family, I guess that just one or two people have ever knew someone who was murdered.

85% of the victims are criminals, mainly drug traffickers. A criminal in Brazil rarelly lives enough to celebrate his 40 years old brithday. Either he is killed in confrontation with police, or murdered by other criminals, in internal disputes.
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:18 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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No, it ISN'T that bad.

The statistics are a big lie.

I never knew someone who was murdered, in my entire life. My father, who is 70 years old, never knew someone in his entire life who was murdered. In my whole extended family, I guess that just one or two people have ever knew someone who was murdered.

85% of the victims are criminals, mainly drug traffickers. A criminal in Brazil rarelly lives enough to celebrate his 40 years old brithday. Either he is killed in confrontation with police, or murdered by other criminals, in internal disputes.
I understand. It's the same thing in the U.S.
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Northeast of Brazil
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21 New Orleans United States 199 343.829 57.88

30 Detroit United States 346 713.777 48.47

43 ST. Louis United States 113 319.294 35.39

48 Baltimore United States 195 620.961 31.40




I wonder if anyone here believes that innocent hard-working people are being "killed like flies" in the streets of New Orleans, Detroit, St. Louis or Baltimore...
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:25 PM
 
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Now, show me the statistics of how many people WITHOUT CRIMINAL RECORD were killed in each city...

I can bet that 85% of the victims had criminal record, and previous involvement with criminal activities, mainly drug trafficking...
How many of those cities are in the Northeast of the country?
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Northeast of Brazil
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How many of those cities are in the Northeast of the country?

The cities in bold are in the Northeast:


3 Maceió Brazil 1.564 1,156,278 135.26
10 Belém Brazil 1.639 2,100,319 78.04
17 Vitoria Brazil 1.143 1,685,384 67.82
22 Salvador (and RMS) Brazil 2.037 3,574,804 56.98
26 Manaus Brazil 1.079 2,106,866 51.21
27 São Luís Brazil 516 1,014,837 50.85
29 João Pessoa Brazil 583 1,198,675 48.64

31 Cuiabá Brazil 403 834.060 48.32
32 Recife Brazil 1.793 3,717,640 48.23
36 Macapá Brazil 225 499.116 45.08
37 FORTALEZA (not "Fortress") Brazil 1.514 3,529,138 42.90
39 Curitiba Brazil 720 1,890,272 38.09
40 Goiânia Brazil 484 1,302,001 37.17
45 Belo Horizonte Brazil 1.680 4,883,721 34.40



The Northeast of Brazil has 8 state capitals with population above 700 thousand inhabitants. Two of them are not in this list: Natal and Teresina.
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