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Another detail to be analysed when comparing Brazilian cities, is the fact that some of them may be reporting the total of killings including the poorer (and more dangerous) cities in the Metropolitan Areas, while others may be reporting only the killings in the main city (municipality), that is usually richer, and less dangerous. This "detail" may cause many distortions in the list...
I wonder if anyone here believes that innocent hard-working people are being "killed like flies" in the streets of New Orleans, Detroit, St. Louis or Baltimore...
No, all those cities have certain extremely bad, low income areas with drug-related violence.
Those areas are almost completely black as well. Other than that, they're very safe (and well worth visiting).
No, all those cities have certain extremely bad, low income areas with drug-related violence.
Those areas are almost completely black as well. Other than that, they're very safe (and well worth visiting).
Same thing in the Brazilian cities. Certain extremely bad, low income areas with drug-related violence. And 80% of the murders happen in that areas.
A city like Joao Pessoa, for example, is a paradise. When I visit Joao Pessoa, I walk everywhere with no fear, and don't see any incidents. But there are certain bad areas in the outskirts of the city that contribute with 90% of that statistics shown in the list.
The simple idea that Joao Pessoa is a "dangerous" place sounds ridiculous to me.
I'm very surprised to see João Pessoa there .. Rio, that wouldn't surprise me.. there is a lot of crime in Rio and it is not subject to only the drug traffickers. I have family in Rio, and also plenty of friends around Rio and also João Pessoa.
Brasil is pretty dangerous, you can't really sugarcoat it... but, at the same time it isn't a warzone and if you go there as a tourist you'll probably be alright if you keep your head out of bad areas.
Now, to say you'd be safer in Rio than you would in an American big city, is in my opinion, WAY off track.
I'm very surprised to see João Pessoa there .. Rio, that wouldn't surprise me.. there is a lot of crime in Rio and it is not subject to only the drug traffickers. I have family in Rio, and also plenty of friends around Rio and also João Pessoa.
Brasil is pretty dangerous, you can't really sugarcoat it... but, at the same time it isn't a warzone and if you go there as a tourist you'll probably be alright if you keep your head out of bad areas.
Now, to say you'd be safer in Rio than you would in an American big city, is in my opinion, WAY off track.
And what about if you LIVE here, and keep your head out of bad areas? Won't you be alright?
Since the bad areas are small and very localized, there is no reason for anyone who lives in Brazil to go there. Unless you are involved in some illegal activity...
And what about if you LIVE here, and keep your head out of bad areas? Won't you be alright?
Since the bad areas are small and very localized, there is no reason for anyone who lives in Brazil to go there. Unless you are involved in some illegal activity...
You can get robbed anywhere, my grandma was robbed right on Copacabana beach. My friend and her boyfriend were robbed at gunpoint right at niteroi (they are natives and currently live there).
The point was, if you're a tourist, it is less likely to happen because you aren't there as long.
You can get robbed anywhere, my grandma was robbed right on Copacabana beach. My friend and her boyfriend were robbed at gunpoint in a busy park in Rio (they are natives and currently live there).
The point was, if you're a tourist, it is less likely to happen because you aren't there as long.
Oh, robberies happen in all countries of the world. But 99% of robberies don't end in murder. It's rare that a robbery ends with the victim being killed. In most robberies, not a single shot is fired.
And it surely takes much more than a few days in Brazil to increase your probabilities of being robbed. The last time I got robbed here in Brazil was 9 years ago...
Oh, robberies happen in all countries of the world. But 99% of robberies don't end in murder. It's rare that a robbery ends with the victim being killed. In most robberies, not a single shot is fired.
And it surely takes much more than a few days in Brazil to increase your probabilities of being robbed. The last time I got robbed here in Brazil was 9 years ago...
Yeah, don't get me wrong. Brasil is one of the countries on my travel list coming up, and probably the #1 country I want to see. I'd also go there without any worries. Brasil might have high crime rates, but I'd go to Brasil before going back to Colombia any day, and I felt pretty safe in Colombia.
You're right though, if you talk about murders, then the people who are murdered are probably in the drug trade. I wouldn't imagine it being too much different than USA in terms of the murder rate.. just the fact there is obviously more poverty in Brasil, so it will seem like it has a higher murder rate, but in reality the middle-upper middle class probably don't worry much more about being murdered than an American.
Are the chances a little higher in Brasil.. maybe... but would it be enough to worry me? Naaaah. But I'm also smart enough to not be a "slum tourist"
I never knew someone who was murdered, in my entire life. My father, who is 70 years old, never knew someone in his entire life who was murdered. In my whole extended family, I guess that just one or two people have ever knew someone who was murdered.
85% of the victims are criminals, mainly drug traffickers. A criminal in Brazil rarelly lives enough to celebrate his 40 years old brithday. Either he is killed in confrontation with police, or murdered by other criminals, in internal disputes.
Why are people so quick to dismiss statistics that show their country in a bad light? You cannot believe what you want and dismiss what you want - well, you can, but it's pretty childish IMO and probably shows you are not willing to take any criticism at all.
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While it's mostly between criminals I'm sure that spills over into the general population, with violent robbings etc.
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