Would you agree/disagree with the idea the United States is most "individualistic" or "individualism-valuing" country? (movies, schools)
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1.How are aetheists comdemned? Are they put in jail? Do they lose their jobs?
Name one declared atheist who has ever been elected to public office. How many of your kids' teachers are declared atheists? If the CEO of a big corporation publicly declared that he was an atheist, what do you think would happen to his company's sales?
If a person publicly declared himself to be atheist, there is a large enough number of Americans (although not a majority, probably) who would see to it that he is punished. Why do you think atheists do not wear lapel pins or necklaces proclaiming their belief?
Name one declared atheist who has ever been elected to public office. How many of your kids' teachers are declared atheists? If the CEO of a big corporation publicly declared that he was an atheist, what do you think would happen to his company's sales?
If a person publicly declared himself to be atheist, there is a large enough number of Americans (although not a majority, probably) who would see to it that he is punished. Why do you think atheists do not wear lapel pins or necklaces proclaiming their belief?
US.Reps.Pete Stark(D-CA)Barb Lee(D-CA)Sen.Mark Udall(D-CO)to name a few. Maybe more. I don't have kids,but if I did,I'd care less if they were aetheists(not sure why they would need to in a public school declare themselves an aetheist exactly). Why would a ceo need to say one way or another if they were an aetheist? If they did,I gurantee you few would care?
As for a regular person,which I guess you are referring to in paragraph 2,what punishment are you talking about? Stoning?Tar and feathering?
The United States was built on one Christian concept. "I have not come to save the whole flock but the one lone sheep that has fallen into the pit".
TRANSLATED. One individual is just as valuable as the whole collective if not more so...If the rights of ONE individual are compromised - the collective goes into decay and all of the collective is in danger of losing all their rights.
This is simple principle that is the spine of individuality. It's what made America great- fair and just where people could reach their full potential and an empire of such individual forms.
Now that their is injustice and an affront to individual rights and disrespect for the individual through the socialist doctrine of "the common good" or the rights of the collective trumping the singular- we see the decline of a nation built on Christianity...as Christ leaves America so leaves the power.
Name one declared atheist who has ever been elected to public office. How many of your kids' teachers are declared atheists? If the CEO of a big corporation publicly declared that he was an atheist, what do you think would happen to his company's sales?
If a person publicly declared himself to be atheist, there is a large enough number of Americans (although not a majority, probably) who would see to it that he is punished. Why do you think atheists do not wear lapel pins or necklaces proclaiming their belief?
In public life, there is definitely a stigma attached to being an atheist. The U.S. unfortunately has a lot of fundamentalist Christians who think you'll burn in hell if you don't accept Christ and God. :rolls eyes:
This may be changing slowly though. Most European countries are still way ahead of the U.S. in this regard, I think.
You may be surprised how much socialism and Judeo-Christianity have in common. Very surprised.
The architects of the Bill of Rights did indeed have God in mind when they passed it. Those Federalist Papers might shed some light on that.
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Originally Posted by Oleg Bach
Now that their is injustice and an affront to individual rights and disrespect for the individual through the socialist doctrine of "the common good" or the rights of the collective trumping the singular- we see the decline of a nation built on Christianity...as Christ leaves America so leaves the power.
Since when has an empire cared for each 'individuals' rights? How long has all this new injustice been practiced, as you infer a more recent development? Isn't judeo-Christianity about the all-in-one common good for the common man mantra, if obedient and well-mannered? All this collective stuff makes me think of cybernetic cube-dwellers bent on mass assimilation.
Also, check your history: Christ never left Asia and certainly never made it to the western hemisphere in the 1700's incarnatus. Has he announced a press release about a world tour with itinerary?
If anything, American power is in decline due to a loss of priorities & sensibilties in her society and the usual greed & corruption within a government so vast and all the concommitant details involved in running it. Then there is also the deliberate, unstoppable development of so many other areas on the globe that have discovered market affluence and predetermination beyond daily means.
The question of the religious American's earnest morality as an honorable ethic aside, new things uproot the old constantly and you can see this in some aspects of the religious mind with the new hybrid beliefs rising in the old churches. If a god cannot evolve along with its believers' newfound desires, it withers and dies.
1.How are aetheists comdemned? Are they put in jail? Do they lose their jobs?
A lot of Americans REALLY distrust atheists. Polls show many regard them as less trustworthy than atheists. 50% of Americans would not vote for an atheist president.
Don't forget that the South is part of America too.
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3.Intellectuals condemned? How?
A sizable portion of the population buys into the Republican anti-science BS. Apparently evolution is just a theory. Apparently, there is "debate" about climate change. Apparently, wanting more people to go to college makes you a snob. Why was Bush elected? Because Americans didn't want an "elitist" president like Obama.
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4.Must have never heard of contentious objectors? Or the fact we are one of the few industrialized nations that doesn't have a draft. Oh,and not sure where you have been,but the US has had a few anti-war protests in her day.
Where did you get that information. First of all, the draft can be resumed at any time.
Secondly, most industrialized nations do NOT have a draft: Conscription - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Originally Posted by Oleg Bach
The United States was built on one Christian concept. "I have not come to save the whole flock but the one lone sheep that has fallen into the pit".
TRANSLATED. One individual is just as valuable as the whole collective if not more so...If the rights of ONE individual are compromised - the collective goes into decay and all of the collective is in danger of losing all their rights.
This is simple principle that is the spine of individuality. It's what made America great- fair and just where people could reach their full potential and an empire of such individual forms.
Now that their is injustice and an affront to individual rights and disrespect for the individual through the socialist doctrine of "the common good" or the rights of the collective trumping the singular- we see the decline of a nation built on Christianity...as Christ leaves America so leaves the power.
And that's the principle that is ruining America. Society is just not made to work that way - putting the individual at the highest level in society. That might work in bear society, but not in interconnected human society.
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America as a nation of individuals is a joke.
Americans are conditioned to be conformist robots, eveybody should march along in lock-step.
Just see a movie about American high school from the 80s or 90s, and how kids get picked on from being different. I hope those were dramatisations/America has moved on from that.
Just see a movie about American high school from the 80s or 90s, and how kids get picked on from being different. I hope those were dramatisations/America has moved on from that.
C'mon. Are you telling me kids don't get picked on in Australia?
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