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Old 05-04-2012, 10:32 AM
 
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What countries (besides the US) are most notorious and take a big-brother approach towards tracking their citizens' whereabouts overseas and will punish them for crimes, particularly political crimes, when they return if they have evidence even if they didn't break the laws of the country they're residing in?
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:06 PM
 
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I'm not aware that the USA does that now. The USA does track citizens for child-sex crimes. The USA defines the age of consent as 18, and if an American citizens has sex with a person under 18 while abroad, US law can prosecute when he gets home, regardless of the age of consent in the country involved. As far as I know, there have been only a tiny handful of actual prosecutions, and all have failed to convict, but it is the law anyway.

However, the USA has the power to assess tax on any US citizen for global income, regardless of where earned. and every once in a while they prosecute for that if violated sufficiently flagrantlly.

Of course, the USA runs around the world arbitrarily arresting people off the streets, and imprisoning them for years and justifying it merely by saying they were suspected terrorists, but those are not US citizens.

Can you give me an example of a US citizen who has been prosecuted after returning home for crime abroad, other than child sex crimes or cases involving US tax law, or where charges arise from the citizen's crimes against another American interest, which could have jurisdiction as a civil suit, as well?
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:11 PM
 
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Maybe I should phrase my question simpler:

Which countries (usually authoritarian ones) will prosecute its citizens for doing something overseas that's illegal in their home country but legal in the country they're staying in?

I can understand someone who murders someone in another country, gets sent back to their home country, then goes to jail there.

How about a hypothetical example like the following (let's use China as an example, not sure if China will prosecute said person):

Person from China is in the US (for vacation or school)..

They join a Tibet Freedom protest, vying for Tibet.

Protest turns violent and said person gets arrested.

Said person is deported back to China and is then jailed for having participated in Tibet protest in the US.
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Person from China is in the US (for vacation or school)..

They join a Tibet Freedom protest, vying for Tibet.

Protest turns violent and said person gets arrested.

Said person is deported back to China and is then jailed for having participated in Tibet protest in the US.
OK, in that case, the US could classify a person as a traitor, regardless of where the crime of treason took place. I doubt if there is a country that would not regard treason in a similar manner. Also violations of crimes classified as Official Secrets Acts. If an American comes into possession of classified information, and passes to a foreign power, that would be prosecutable back in the USA. But in the above cases, the US citizens is being charged with crime that reflect back on the nation as being the victim of the crime, which would justify prosecution. China, the same. There might also be an international provision that piracy on the high seas can be prosecuted in any nation that has the accused.
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