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Old 06-01-2012, 06:56 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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in the US you can see the flag everywhere. once I was going from warwick NY to Clifton NJ by car and I had counted the number of flags on my way. I counted 135 flags on a 50 mile route. I think the reason is, being a very young nation, US wants to create a sense of nationality. even at my workplace, just on our floor there are at least a dozen flags may be more. some people stick us flag behind their ID holder which they carry at work.
If you travelled 50 miles in Vietnam you'd probably see more like 1,000 flags, lmao.
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Old 06-01-2012, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Canada has a reputation for not being a flag-waving country, but this is somewhat of a reflection of the past and things have picked up considerably on the "patriotic" front in Canada over the last couple of decades.

The Canadian flag is today very visible in much of the country (not in all regions though), in front of people's cars, on bumper stickers, on T-shirts and jackets, on caps, etc.

I have not been to every country in the world obviously but the parts of Canada that are very "patriotic" are certainly more of flag-waving places than much of the world that I have seen, and are not that dissimilar to the type of flag-waving behaviour people often associate with the U.S.

Certainly much more than most anywhere in Europe I have been, for example.
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Old 06-01-2012, 07:26 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I like the U.S. flag the best. It puts a big smile on my face whenever I see it. I wonder why?

Hmm...
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Old 06-01-2012, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I also wanted to say that I find that the U.S. has toned down the flag-waving (a bit) in recent years. It is still very visible, but not as overwhelming as it used to be.
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Old 06-01-2012, 07:29 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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I like the U.S. flag the best. It puts a big smile on my face whenever I see it. I wonder why?

Hmm...
I like the Stars and Stripes too, the design of it is very beautiful. I like our flag too, despite what it stands for (I think a better flag would just be the Southern Cross without the Union Jack, or maybe even the Aboriginal flag in place of it but it would look rubbish).

The worst flag in the world? Libya. Whoever designed that flag did a very lazy job!
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Old 06-02-2012, 01:50 AM
 
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I guess you refer to the former all green colour of Libya which is no longer used. Nepal has an interesting flag....
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Old 06-02-2012, 01:55 AM
 
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How can a nation's flag be seen as a negative symbol in it's own country?

Do they feel shame EVERY time they fly it?

If the state is allowed to fly it outside Parliament, why not the public citizen?

What a crock of bunkum.
In the case of Germany it was for obvious historical reasons. After the Nazi era folk there were taught to be wary of nationalistic symbols......

Not a question of not being allowed just a sentiment of much of the population against it.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:26 AM
 
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I think in Europe, it is a learned behavior to put down any nationalistic notions. That's why overt flag waving is seen as extremist and fascist, because the idea is to promote a pan-European identity under the EU flag, and flying your own flag is seen as taboo and weird because you are a proud <insert nationality here> instead of a proud European. That's my take on the subject here as an outsider in the middle of it. Left-wing ideology in general, tends to promote the idea of the "world citizen" or regional citizen (which is why usually only people of left-wing extraction, not all mind, refer to themselves as North Americans, United Statesians, Europeans, etc.)
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Old 06-02-2012, 03:06 AM
 
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Not really...

In the case of Spain and Germany, the reason is that we went through extreme nationalistic dictatorships that used the flag, the national anthem and a prefab false history constantly. So people are basically fed up with anal jingoism.

The repulsion and hate many people in those countries feel towards national flags and national anthems does not have anything to do with Paneuropeism or "left and right". That's quite nonsensical.

I vote to the right and I just do not like any flag waving. I find flag waving disgusting, bad taste, plain ridiculous.
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Old 06-02-2012, 04:01 AM
 
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Not really...

In the case of Spain and Germany, the reason is that we went through extreme nationalistic dictatorships that used the flag, the national anthem and a prefab false history constantly. So people are basically fed up with anal jingoism.

The repulsion and hate many people in those countries feel towards national flags and national anthems does not have anything to do with Paneuropeism or "left and right". That's quite nonsensical.

I vote to the right and I just do not like any flag waving. I find flag waving disgusting, bad taste, plain ridiculous.
You just validated what I said in my post.....flag waving is seen as extremist and too nationalistic in Europe, especially on the continent. It IS to do with pan-Europeanism because you can't have a "United States of Europe" if people keep waving their national flag around and that still stirs up feelings of nationalism
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