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Middle Easterners are considered of the 'Caucasoid' type regardless of skin colour. Some Yemenis are as dark as the typical African American but have the same facial features as Europeans. Same goes for Indians.
This is a good question. So Semitic peoples are a branch of Indo-European? What else would they be? I guess that's right.
No, indoeuropean is not the same as caucasian, indoeuropeans and semites are different branches of "caucasian", wich is a racial lebel to describe a type of phenotype (pale skin, straight nasal angle, little cheekbones, thin lips, abundant facial hair...) This does not mean that all who share that physiognomy originated in the Caucasus. Indo-Europeans were originally nomadic people from central Asia-india region and around 3000 BC settled in the Caucasus and the area of Ukraine (i can be wrong)and expanded for the rest of europe. Indoeuropean has a more linguistic sense; all european languages come from the same branch that is related to sanskirt (india) or avestan (Iran)which is where it is assumed that these people came ; Ex:
Avestan: Pita
Sanskrit: Pita
Greek: Pater
Latin: Pater
German: Vater
Eng: Father
Irish: athair
...
Semitic are ethnically and linguistically Middle Eastern.
Middle Easterners are considered of the 'Caucasoid' type regardless of skin colour. Some Yemenis are as dark as the typical African American but have the same facial features as Europeans. Same goes for Indians.
There are others in the Maghreb, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Palestine, Yemen and the Gulf States who are obvious descendants of Africans. I have also met Indians/Pakistanis who are heavily African in appearance (Siddi? Makrani?).
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There are others in the Maghreb, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Palestine, Yemen and the Gulf States who are obvious descendants of Africans. I have also met Indians/Pakistanis who are heavily African in appearance (Siddi? Makrani?).
Africa is the most genetically diverse continent of all. So yes, while these people are Africans they are a far cry from the West Africans many typically associate as 'black Africans.' Even the dark-skinned Kenyans have a totally different bone-structure/body type to someone from the Ivory Coast. For instance, they tend to be very tall, lanky, with fair sharp noses with more pronounced cheek-bones and sunken eyes, with the West Africans are more heavily built, with lower nose bridges and flatter, broader noises.
There are others in the Maghreb, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Palestine, Yemen and the Gulf States who are obvious descendants of Africans. I have also met Indians/Pakistanis who are heavily African in appearance (Siddi? Makrani?).
Indian and pakistanis??? No way¡ they don´t have "black" complexion at all. Same goes for the rest except the north africans (Egypt, Morocco...) who can have some mix (some of them, some other clearly not) The guy who said that the Berbers were black obviously doesn´t know many of them. I know several Moroccan berbers and they are white, others moroccans are more arabized or have more subsaharian influence. Africa is very big.
Africa is the most genetically diverse continent of all. So yes, while these people are Africans they are a far cry from the West Africans many typically associate as 'black Africans.' Even the dark-skinned Kenyans have a totally different bone-structure/body type to someone from the Ivory Coast. For instance, they tend to be very tall, lanky, with fair sharp noses with more pronounced cheek-bones and sunken eyes, with the West Africans are more heavily built, with lower nose bridges and flatter, broader noises.
I think that while people understand that West Africans and East Africans are quite different in appearance, most still see both as black Africans, just as southern Italians or Portuguese from the Algarve are different from Russians or Swedes in appearance, but all are considered white Europeans.
Indian and pakistanis??? No way¡ they don´t have "black" complexion at all.
Actually, some of the blackest people on Earth are in India, both of native Dravidian origins and more recent (from 16th century on) African origins. As well, the Makrani of Pakistan are of definite African ancestry.
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Same goes for the rest except the north africans (Egypt, Morocco...) who can have some mix (some of them, some other clearly not) The guy who said that the Berbers were black obviously doesn´t know many of them. I know several Moroccan berbers and they are white, others moroccans are more arabized or have more subsaharian influence. Africa is very big.
Yes. Africa is very big, as is its Diaspora. There are black African descendants all over this world, including the places I mentioned earlier. The fact that you haven't seen them doesn't change that fact.
I think that while people understand that West Africans and East Africans are quite different in appearance, most still see both as black Africans, just as southern Italians or Portuguese from the Algarve are different from Russians or Swedes in appearance, but all are considered white Europeans.
Isn´t the same case. A north african is closest phenotypically to an european than a subsaharian african. ¿Or do you consider that these persons (actors from the film "the source"(most frech of algerian origin)) are are physically close to a Nigerian?
I did not compare North Africans to anyone; I compared West Africans to East Africans. You do realize, though, that there indeed are those in North Africa who are closer to sub-Saharan people than to Europeans.
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Actually, some of the blackest people on Earth are in India, both of native Dravidian origins and more recent (from 16th century on) African origins. As well, the Makrani of Pakistan are of definite African ancestry.
Yes. Africa is very big, as is its Diaspora. There are black African descendants all over this world, including the places I mentioned earlier. The fact that you haven't seen them doesn't change that fact.
Interesting, I did not know there were many Africans in India at all? What's the history behind that? Were they North Africans or Sub-Saharan?
I'm aware of the fairly large Indian diaspora in both East and South Africa though.
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