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^ I wonder if those stats include people who have moved to a different country?
Denmark surprises me, firstly because it's a small country so its not like you move far away from your family home, and secondly Copenhagen is such an expensive city.
Copenhagen is expensive, but so is Helsinki, Stockholm and definitely Oslo. But on the other hand student apartments are available for many, and so are rent subsidies if you don't earn enough, which lowers the barrier to move away from home. And in fact, housing isn't that expensive in Scandinavia outside the capitals. What would you say the rent for a 1-bedroom apartment outside the city center is in Melbourne? Around 800€ a month (AUD 1250)? I live in the third largest urban area in Finland and you can well get an studio for 450€ a month (~AUD 700), 1-bedroom maybe 550€ (~AUD 850).
Copenhagen is expensive, but so is Helsinki, Stockholm and definitely Oslo. But on the other hand student apartments are available for many, and so are rent subsidies if you don't earn enough, which lowers the barrier to move away from home. And in fact, housing isn't that expensive in Scandinavia outside the capitals. What would you say the rent for a 1-bedroom apartment outside the city center is in Melbourne? Around 800€ a month (AUD 1250)? I live in the third largest urban area in Finland and you can well get an studio for 450€ a month (~AUD 700), 1-bedroom maybe 550€ (~AUD 850).
Ah I see. Are most of the universities in Copenhagen, Stockholm, Oslo, or in 'college towns' away? Housing here is expensive, one of the most expensive in the world. Well in Melbourne in the city centre an apartment is typically about $300-600 a week, while in some cheap areas as low as $150 a week, but if you room share like I do cheaper. I moved from Perth to Melbourne, a distance similar to Lisbon to Moscow, so obviously moving out was a necessity. Before that I lived in a country town (first time I moved out when I was 24, after university) 3 hours drive from Perth and lived alone, paying $140 a week for a whole house!
According to a recent BBC article, 25% of young people aged 20 to 34 in the UK live with their parents - mostly because it is more expensive to get your own place. For men aged 20, the figure is 65%, and for women it's 52%. A lot of momma's boys, I guess.
According to a recent BBC article, 25% of young people aged 20 to 34 in the UK live with their parents - mostly because it is more expensive to get your own place. For men aged 20, the figure is 65%, and for women it's 52%. A lot of momma's boys, I guess.
I was wondering about the difference between men and women, then realised it's probably because when women marry, if they live at home, there's still a tendency to leave the home, where in some cases (particularly in Asian societies) the women move into the familial home with the husband's parents.
Also these days who seem to have more young men who are slackers/unemployed, for some reason (though there are women like this too), whereas this generation of women is more ambitious and independent than ever before, so it's the reverse of the old days where young men are supposed to go out and 'make it' while unmarried daughters often stayed at home until marriage.
Anyway, I largely see the trend as driven by capitalism, which partly drives physical mobility (moving elsewhere in the country), which is also possible with transportation.
When I go to my nearest big supermarket, I occasionally see men who look like they're in their 30s shopping with their parents (I presume), but I don't see this with women. There certainly seems to be more slackers amongst young men, for whatever reason.
When I go to my nearest big supermarket, I occasionally see men who look like they're in their 30s shopping with their parents (I presume), but I don't see this with women. There certainly seems to be more slackers amongst young men, for whatever reason.
Yeah I don't know why there isn't as much of an equivalent of 'mamma's boys' who stay at home well into adulthood, and are treated like children by their mothers. 'Daddy's girl' sort of connotes something a bit different, sometimes a spoilt rich girl.
There's also the stereotype of Italian mothers and their sons being like this.
I am from Asian countries, and it is typical scenario here in Asia that they live with parents until they get married or job relocation. Personally, i feel aside from freedom the maturity of the person is more developed if they moved out from parents in the right legal age say 18 or 21. I migrated in another asian countries and the level of maturity mostly of the people are very far if I will compare with westeners.
I lived in Italy for five years. There I met several Italians that lived at home. I met a few that lived alone, independently! Why don't Italian just move in with their friends, rent rooms for freedom? I was always afraid to ask the Italians I met that question for fear of sounding too nosy or something. by!
Freedom?
Having to share a roof with anyone is hardly my idea of freedom.
My parents are way better roommates than anyone I've ever lived with besides my wife.
Roommates suck.
I am from Asian countries, and it is typical scenario here in Asia that they live with parents until they get married or job relocation. Personally, i feel aside from freedom the maturity of the person is more developed if they moved out from parents in the right legal age say 18 or 21. .
Really?
The immaturity in this country is freakin' rampant. Guess getting booted out at 18 doesn't help most people.
I look at my cousins and other friends in other asian countries. They have WAY more idea of what responsibility for themselves and others mean.
Really?
The immaturity in this country is freakin' rampant. Guess getting booted out at 18 doesn't help most people.
I look at my cousins and other friends in other asian countries. They have WAY more idea of what responsibility for themselves and others mean.
I think it is because of the familial responsibilities which tie in.Currently American society's prejudice is that the adult children are just mooching off of parents who have achieved setting up, or inheriting, an independent household.
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