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Old 07-03-2012, 01:47 PM
 
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, I can send my child to school without worrying if there will be a school shooting with kids regularly getting their hands on their parents guns!
But, Lassie, hae you nae heard of this stramash? Dunblane school massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

or, http://en.wikipedia.org/wikip?Erfurt_school_massacre
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Scotland
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School shootings in respective countries since Dunblane tragedy in 1996

Scotland school shootings
Dunblane

USA school shootings
Grimsley High School
Wickliffe Middle School shooting
Blackville-Hilda High School
Richland High School
Frontier Middle School
Hamilton High School
San Diego State University
Hetzel Union Building shooting State College
Bethel Regional High School
Pearl High School
Heath High School
Westside Middle School
Parker Middle School
Thurston High School
Columbine High School massacre
Heritage High School
Fort Gibson Middle School
Buell Elementary School
Lake Worth Middle School
University of Arkansas
Santana High School
Granite Hills High School
Martin Luther King, Jr. High School
Appalachian School of Law
John McDonogh High School
University of Arizona Nursing School
Red Lion Area Junior High School
Case Western Reserve University
Rocori High School
Columbia High School
Fairleigh Dickinson University
Randallstown High School
Red Lake Senior High School
Campbell County High School
Pine Middle School
Essex Elementary School
Orange High School shooting
Platte Canyon High School
Weston High School
Amish school
Henry Foss High School shooting
Herbert Henry Dow High School
University of North Carolina at Greensboro
University of Washington
Virginia Tech massacre
Delaware State University
SuccessTech Academy
Louisiana Technical College
Mitchell High School
E.O. Green School
Northern Illinois University
Davidson High School
Central High School
Henry Ford High School
2008 University of Central Arkansas
Dillard High School
Henry Ford Community College
Hampton University
Covina High School
Wesleyan University
Canandaigua Academy
Harvard University
Larose-Cut Off Middle School
Skyline College
Atlanta University Center
Deer Valley High School shooting
Northern Virginia Community College
Discovery Middle School
University of Alabama in Huntsville
Deer Creek Middle School
Birney Elementary School
Ohio State University
Belleville Township HS East
University of Texas at Austin
Alisal High School Salinas
Mid-Atlantic Christian University
Kelly Elementary School
Marinette High School
Millard South High School
Martinsville West Middle School
Worthing High School
Ross Elementary School
San Jose State University
Pearl City Middle School
Cape Fear High School shooting
2011 Virginia Tech shooting
Walpole Elementary School shooting
Chardon High School shooting
Oikos University shooting
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Strathclyde & M√°laga
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Originally Posted by paull805 View Post
School shootings in respective countries since Dunblane tragedy in 1996

Scotland school shootings
Dunblane

USA school shootings
Grimsley High School
Wickliffe Middle School shooting
Blackville-Hilda High School
Richland High School
Frontier Middle School
Hamilton High School
San Diego State University
Hetzel Union Building shooting State College
Bethel Regional High School
Pearl High School
Heath High School
Westside Middle School
Parker Middle School
Thurston High School
Columbine High School massacre
Heritage High School
Fort Gibson Middle School
Buell Elementary School
Lake Worth Middle School
University of Arkansas
Santana High School
Granite Hills High School
Martin Luther King, Jr. High School
Appalachian School of Law
John McDonogh High School
University of Arizona Nursing School
Red Lion Area Junior High School
Case Western Reserve University
Rocori High School
Columbia High School
Fairleigh Dickinson University
Randallstown High School
Red Lake Senior High School
Campbell County High School
Pine Middle School
Essex Elementary School
Orange High School shooting
Platte Canyon High School
Weston High School
Amish school
Henry Foss High School shooting
Herbert Henry Dow High School
University of North Carolina at Greensboro
University of Washington
Virginia Tech massacre
Delaware State University
SuccessTech Academy
Louisiana Technical College
Mitchell High School
E.O. Green School
Northern Illinois University
Davidson High School
Central High School
Henry Ford High School
2008 University of Central Arkansas
Dillard High School
Henry Ford Community College
Hampton University
Covina High School
Wesleyan University
Canandaigua Academy
Harvard University
Larose-Cut Off Middle School
Skyline College
Atlanta University Center
Deer Valley High School shooting
Northern Virginia Community College
Discovery Middle School
University of Alabama in Huntsville
Deer Creek Middle School
Birney Elementary School
Ohio State University
Belleville Township HS East
University of Texas at Austin
Alisal High School Salinas
Mid-Atlantic Christian University
Kelly Elementary School
Marinette High School
Millard South High School
Martinsville West Middle School
Worthing High School
Ross Elementary School
San Jose State University
Pearl City Middle School
Cape Fear High School shooting
2011 Virginia Tech shooting
Walpole Elementary School shooting
Chardon High School shooting
Oikos University shooting
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Old 07-03-2012, 07:52 PM
 
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This reminds me of a Native American saying I read about years ago. Freedom is a big responsibility, because with total freedom, you have to exert discipline over yourself. Freedom carries with it the obligation of self-discipline.

Why wouldn't someone feel free to express oneself in Europe? I never had any trouble with that in Europe, with the exception of Russia.
Most Americans piously believe that they can buy freedom, that it is a quantity that one pumps into a tank, responsibility is a quality exhibited by on-time credit payments.
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:52 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Because for many Americas they define real freedom by having right to bear arms, and without a government.
This was my point, in part. If you do away with government, it becomes incumbent on each citizen to regulate their own behavior. Of course, the people whining about big government don't seem to be the types who would be inclined to self-regulate.
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Old 07-04-2012, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Kentucky
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^This
Ummm, let's see here...the population of Scotland 5,222,000 and the population of the United States 311,591,000 therefore you cannot compare crime and shootings and such. A country with such a larger population will obviously have more crime. DUH!
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:20 AM
 
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Ummm, let's see here...the population of Scotland 5,222,000 and the population of the United States 311,591,000 therefore you cannot compare crime and shootings and such. A country with such a larger population will obviously have more crime. DUH!
No so fast with the "duh!". The US is statistically more dangerous even when you control for population size.
Of course, it also depends on where you live.
I live in the US in what is considered a fancy, upper-middle class area, with great public schools (not UPPER class, that's another area - for the Gods who don't need to work at all to maintain an incredibly luxurious and forever secure living).

I never feel anxiety regarding crime because, at a first glance, the area seems very safe.
However, when you look at statistics you realize that even where I live is in fact much more dangerous than in any shady parts of various cities of Europe.

But I think I learned to walk around with a false sense of security, just because the area looks so prim and manicured.

I will never forget the case of that Connecticut doctor who was obviously living in an "upper" type area and whose wife and daughters ended up burned alive as a result of a house invasion. If I could, I would move to Europe in a jiffy - but the professional job market in Europe is extremely difficult to penetrate from a distance.
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Old 07-05-2012, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Burlington, Colorado
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This whole idea that you have to walk around in fear in everyday normal America is so incredibly ridiculous. I don't know much about the really big cities (NYC, Philadelphia, etc), but elsewhere it just isn't true except in the bad part of town. If you do, then you are the paranoid one, not me. I know one brit who who is surprised he agrees with me too.
BBC NEWS | Programmes | From Our Own Correspondent | America's 'safety catch'
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Old 07-05-2012, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Scotland
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Ummm, let's see here...the population of Scotland 5,222,000 and the population of the United States 311,591,000 therefore you cannot compare crime and shootings and such. A country with such a larger population will obviously have more crime. DUH!
There is also more guns in the USA and gun crime per capita is also much, much higher! DUH!!!

Stop slating people for having an opinion, especially a true one! DUH!!

The USA is 62 times bigger than Scotland population wise but school shootings resulting in death since 1974 are 109 times higher.

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Old 07-05-2012, 03:05 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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There is also more guns in the USA and gun crime per capita is also much, much higher! DUH!!!

Stop slating people for having an opinion, especially a true one! DUH!!

The USA is 62 times bigger than Scotland population wise but school shootings resulting in death since 1974 are 109 times higher.
But the U.S. also has a far higher percentage of lower-income minorities. There tends to be a very disproportionate violent crime rate in those communities for historical reasons. That's what skews the numbers.

If we're going to do an apples/apples comparison, then you have to compare typical middle-class U.S. neighborhoods with middle-class Scottish neighborhoods. And do a per capita analysis.
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