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Old 07-25-2012, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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I think Americans who live in other countries and are always criticizing the United States are hypocrites. If they dislike the United States so much, why don't they take the logical step of renouncing their citizenship?
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Tempe, AZ
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If I'm not mistaken, it's pretty hard and expensive for someone to renounce his/her citizenship. If they could, they probably would.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:27 AM
 
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If I'm not mistaken, it's pretty hard and expensive for someone to renounce his/her citizenship. If they could, they probably would.
Also, maybe they have family back in the U.S. that they like to visit frequently? It's much harder to visit family/get a visa if you are let's say now a citizen of Argentina than merely just a U.S. citizen that lives in Argentina.

It's also very hard just to give up something like citizenship on an emotional level. Regardless if you move from the U.S. because you don't like it. Giving up something that was given to you since the day you were born (for most) and that you have had all your life is hard to give up just like that. For instance, I am not religious, and from a Catholic family. I don't go to church and don't agree with the Catholic church. Yet if someone asks I will say I am Catholic. Why? Becuase it's a part of me whether I like it or not, and has been with me since the day I was born. It's hard for me to flip a switcha and just be like, well now I am Buddhist.

I don't think it's being hypocritical, I just think it's not that easy of a decision.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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We need to make it easier for them. Then they can put their money where their mouth is.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:50 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I will travel the world but will never give up my U.S. citizenship.

You gotta be crazy. :-)
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:52 AM
 
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Why can't people criticize the U.S.? No country is perfect.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Why can't people criticize the U.S.? No country is perfect.
No one said people couldn't criticize the US - hell, I am a US citizen and I gripe about our government, our obesity, our issues all the time.

That's different though from disrespecting your country of origin, moving to get away from it, but still wanting the benefits of citizenship. It's like "having your cake and eating it too."

If they are living abroad permanently, they're not likely to be actually doing anything to help the situation in the US. Like another old saying goes, "if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." Or - "Put up or shut up."
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:04 AM
 
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Being critical with your country doesn't mean you don't like it.

I'm one of the most critics with my country and my fellow citizens but I love it, I'm not going to renounce to my citizenship and I'm going to defend it if someone from other country criticizes it for false reasons.
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Old 07-25-2012, 12:25 PM
 
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Why most Americans living in Europe are your typical hardcore liberal? Liberal creepos, left wing democrats that are always putting down their country. Why is that?
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Old 07-25-2012, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Why most Americans living in Europe are your typical hardcore liberal? Liberal creepos, left wing democrats that are always putting down their country. Why is that?
Because European-style Socialism is consistent with the values of American liberals, and what they ideally want to see in the US. Our typical hardcore conservative creepos, right wing Republicans hate European-style Socialism, so they're less likely to want to live in Europe. Our typical softcore moderate creepos (like me) think that there's good and bad in both systems, and we'd probably enjoy living in Europe while realizing that we'd replace one set of problems with another, but when you have a job, a house, family, and other roots, it's easier to stay where you are.
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