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Old 08-08-2012, 02:12 PM
 
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So?



It's not a predominantly Muslim country, so of course it's "secular" when it's coming to Islam.



Separation between India and Pakistan is not "artificial" - it's rather a result of Islamic encroachment on older culture, that didn't have anything to do with Islam.
And I can grasp it just fine, since I am not exactly a "Westerner"
True with the first point, but the borders by which India and Pakistan were separated were fairly arbitrary with mass emigration/immigration across the borders during and after the partition as well as many people who now find themselves as the religious minority staying put. Also, India does have a history, though often tumultuous, of creating unitary states where muslims, hindus, sikhs, jains, buddhists, etc. lived side by side. The argument of whether the partition was arbitrary, had strong historical grounding, or was a good idea (either in the way it was done or whether it should have happened at all) is pretty heavily debated.
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Old 08-08-2012, 04:08 PM
 
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True with the first point, but the borders by which India and Pakistan were separated were fairly arbitrary with mass emigration/immigration across the borders during and after the partition as well as many people who now find themselves as the religious minority staying put. Also, India does have a history, though often tumultuous, of creating unitary states where muslims, hindus, sikhs, jains, buddhists, etc. lived side by side. The argument of whether the partition was arbitrary, had strong historical grounding, or was a good idea (either in the way it was done or whether it should have happened at all) is pretty heavily debated.
Agree with everything you've said, ( although I personally believe that separation was a right thing to do, in order to prevent the wider Islamisation of the society,) that's why I've put "artificial" into " " marks. (I was short on time to elaborate it at that point, sorry.)
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Old 08-12-2012, 07:39 PM
 
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How does it compare to the majority muslim republics that are members of the Russian Federation, like Dagestan and Tatarstan? (forget Chechnya for this)
Kazakhs and Tatars are similar (not physically), just like all russified nations, and have nothing in common with muslim Caucasians.
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