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Old 08-10-2012, 09:23 AM
 
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What countries in the world are not becoming more influenced by American pop culture and ideals at the expense of their indigenous culture and ideals?
Probably countries within the Islamic world would be number one...
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Old 08-10-2012, 09:45 AM
 
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Cuba, North Korea and Afghanistan
I too would say Cuba.
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:03 PM
 
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Cuba, North Korea, Maldives, Qatar, Turkmenistan
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Old 08-10-2012, 02:01 PM
 
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What countries in the world are not becoming more influenced by American pop culture and ideals at the expense of their indigenous culture and ideals?
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Old 08-10-2012, 03:19 PM
 
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Hopefully in the near future globalism will be done with. This global capitalist system is making the world less unique.
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:28 PM
 
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I saw someone mention Romania earlier in the thread. That country, along with Belarus, springs to my mind. I would also like to add that while countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia have governments that condemn Americanization, the people themselves are more Americanized than you might think. For example, video games, satellite TV and lingerie are all very popular in Saudi Arabia.

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Hopefully in the near future globalism will be done with. This global capitalist system is making the world less unique.
Yeah, I've heard some people predict that nationalism will make a return in the coming decades.
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Old 08-12-2012, 10:15 AM
 
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If anything I would say there is ever so slightly less American influence in Britain and perhaps France since the 1990s.

In the UK, we watch far more of our own TV shows than US imports nowadays, and here in France only a minority of the films on at the cinema are Hollywood. I seem to remember it being a lot more in the 90s. The English language is of course growing but I think it's more a question of general global English rather than love of America.

In France, Spanish-language music is now just as cool as English. Rap music used to be popular in the UK but now people are more into indigenous genres like Grime and dubstep. I don't think the US is particularly influencial also in fashion, or food.

Having said that I think the biggest (and growing) American influence of the 2000s and 2010s are big tech companies like Google, Apple, Facebook. Europe just cannot seem to produce a big tech heavyweight - remember in the 1980s France had its own proto-Internet called minitel - that's now been switched off. Though these companies are good at localising and so the American-ness of them will wane over time.


I would not call any Media product coming from Hollywood "American". Since the 20's, most directors and producers were European and now is International. It's more like a round-trip.

Americanization does not mean anything, does not change things. Germans were extremely americanized in their 20's and early 30's, even the VW was an American concept, etc...and it did not change a thing. In fact, the main cause of the rise of Hitler was the withdrawal of US investments in Germany in 1930.

So Mickey Mouse and Coca Cola are not Americanization no more.
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Old 08-12-2012, 10:34 AM
 
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Hopefully in the near future globalism will be done with. This global capitalist system is making the world less unique.
On the contrary. In some parts of the world, it's provoking a reaction against cultural homogenization in favor of diversity. But still, globalization is a bit of an obnoxious tendency.
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Old 08-12-2012, 10:41 AM
 
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even the VW was an American concept, etc...and it did not change a thing. In fact, the main cause of the rise of Hitler was the withdrawal of US investments in Germany in 1930.

So Mickey Mouse and Coca Cola are not Americanization no more.
How do you figure the VW was an American concept? It was Hitler's project. If you have some history on that, please share.

Disney and Coca Cola certainly are elements of Americanization. Coca Cola is aggressively marketing its product worldwide, making every effort to put out of business local soft drink producers who make a cheaper, better and more natural product. How could Disney be anything but American? Just because some of these corporations have become multi-national doesn't mean they're no longer culturally American.
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Old 08-12-2012, 10:51 AM
 
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I saw someone mention Romania earlier in the thread. That country, along with Belarus, springs to my mind. I would also like to add that while countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia have governments that condemn Americanization, the people themselves are more Americanized than you might think. For example, video games, satellite TV and lingerie are all very popular in Saudi Arabia.

Yeah, I've heard some people predict that nationalism will make a return in the coming decades.
I considered listing ROmania, but the thing is, Romanians LOVE anything American. Belarus, less so. Belarus does a really good job of promoting their indigenous traditions. Good call.

Very true about the Middle East, too. The younger men are Michael Jackson fans. Oprah's show was very popular with women. Iran had a show modeled on American Idol. That was pushing the envelope against conservative Islamic customs, because women were allowed to perform on the show. Scandalous!

There's a good question here about how to define "resisting Americanization". What governments are doing about it, and how the populace reacts to it, are often two very different things. I like that Africa has its own home-grown pop music traditions that are very strong. Anyplace where local traditions are strong (Cuban music, another example), Americanization will be less likely to have an influence. I don't recall seeing American influence in Ecuador. The population tends to be very anti-American.
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