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Old 08-16-2012, 05:36 PM
 
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In what country do people have the power to live their
life without fear of government influencing their life
choices or taking away some of their rights. Basically where do
people, whether able bodied or disabled have the most rights
which the government can't take away.


Where is one most likely to be successful socially and financially
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Old 08-17-2012, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Paris, France
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I thought that one of the reasons that the government exists is to influence the life of the people. "Taking away some rights" is meaningless, because rights do not exist until the government has written the constitution to give rights (or not) to the population.

Generally, the Scandinavian countries come out on top on this sort of thing, one of the main reasons being that people have the right to live in peace without being threatened by firearms. The horrible tragedy in Norway last year absolutely validated the right to live somewhere without dangerous weapons.
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Old 08-17-2012, 12:35 PM
 
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It is a vague idea.

In order to gain rights, some of your other rights have to be taken away by the government. A government which doesn't take away any rights from you is unable to give you any right either.

I live in Canada, and I think Canadians enjoy pretty good rights - afforable education, healthcare, low crime, gay marriage. Property price is too high though, not sure owning a property should be considered a "right" - maybe not.
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Old 08-17-2012, 01:12 PM
 
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It is a vague idea.

In order to gain rights, some of your other rights have to be taken away by the government. A government which doesn't take away any rights from you is unable to give you any right either.

I live in Canada, and I think Canadians enjoy pretty good rights - afforable education, healthcare, low crime, gay marriage. Property price is too high though, not sure owning a property should be considered a "right" - maybe not.

I totally agree with you about the government and Canada.

My only other question is....
Why should owning property not be a right? Everyone needs some kind of
roof over their head regardless of who they are. And no living in a car, a
shelter, or the street is not a real house.
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Old 08-17-2012, 02:48 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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The UK. The immigrants can come in and rape people and burn our flag and still not get deported. They can also come in and use our benefits and not work.
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Old 08-17-2012, 02:52 PM
 
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The UK. The immigrants can come in and rape people and burn our flag and still not get deported. They can also come in and use our benefits and not work.
Haha, same with Germany and the Netherlands.
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Old 08-18-2012, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Paris, France
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So, who decides what the "rights" are?
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Old 08-19-2012, 02:05 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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I vote for Denmark. Here is an example. They have this neighborhood call Christiania. It is right smack in the center of Copenhagen. It is probably the last free society in the world. They don't pay any tax and they were able to fight commercialism and the government respects it. The laws of Denmark does not apply to this community. I visited there and the residents are respectful human beings and self sufficient. I don't see them panhandling. Freetown Christiania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-19-2012, 07:16 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Sometimes the government has to take away certain 'rights' to guarantee other 'rights.'
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Old 08-19-2012, 07:24 AM
 
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So, who decides what the "rights" are?
exactly.
For example, in many culture, parents deem it is their right to spank their kids if they don't behave. In America, that's illegal.

Rights are often more complicated than we think.

We may think the right of speech is necessary, but what happens when others talk about your privacy in public? It seems their rights but at the same time infringes your right of privacy.
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