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Old 09-13-2012, 05:14 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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I don't consider Monaco a true city state because it's not as autonomous as Singapore, lacks many of the national functions (military, economy) - like Gibraltar it's more of a tiny enclave, residents of Monaco leave the principality all the time for various reasons.

For my money:

Hong Kong virtually DID function as a city state, and indeed still does as part of the Hong Kong SAR. The same goes for Macau.

Others that could've followed the same route IMO:

Venice, Italy: One of the most powerful city states in Medieval times.

Florence, Italy: Could well have become another prominent city state.

Barcelona, Spain: Could've become a Catalan enclave.

Geneva, Switzerland

Kalingrad, Russia: Already an enclave of Russia, could've become it's own city.

Istanbul, Turkey

Goa, India

Zanzibar, Tanzania: An island off the coast, pretty distinct from the rest of Kenya, and dominated by Arab culture.
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:32 AM
 
Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA
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Hong Kong definitely is. It's a country that depends completely on China for basic things like representation and defense, otherwise operates its own economy and government.

The situation isn't as clear as Singapore but its the closest place there is and China's never been to happy with Hong Kong that's why the other Pearl River Delta cities, namely Shenzen is in beast mode and working on trouncing Hong Kong's economic power.
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:41 AM
 
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I don't think it could be possible in cities like Barcelona or Venice.

Venice it's too focused on tourism to be an independent state, without counting the loss of population every year. Currently doesn't even reach 70,000 poeople, and is no longer considered a city but a town.

Barcelona it's inside Catalonia, and there's a very deep national proud, it's not possible to separate Barcelona from Catalonia. If someday becomes independent, it would be the whole Catalonia, not only Barcelona. Barcelona is also the least independentist of all the Catalan regions.
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:18 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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Goa isn't even a city, it's a small region with rural areas and population centers. It's more than 5 times larger than Singapore with less than one third of its population. Even if it were independent, it wouldn't qualify as a city-state
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:28 AM
 
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What about Vatican City?
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:35 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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^^^ The fact that it has no economy doesn't help
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:36 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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What about Vatican City?
The 'city' in it's name is the only thing city-like about the Vatican City.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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Kalingrad, Russia: Already an enclave of Russia, could've become it's own city.
Well, it was its own city before 1945: Königsberg, capital of East Prussia. It existed for nearly 700 years before taken over by the Soviets and got its name changed.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Brunei is pretty close to a city-state, as are Kuwait, Qatar and Bahrain. More than 3/4 of Qatar's population lives in Doha, the capital.

The United Arab Emirates went through a period of time after WWII in which each city there was a city-state. They were the Emirates that became United.

Gdansk, Poland, and Trieste, Italy, and Tangier, Morocco, recently went through periods in which they were city-states.

West Berlin was a city-state, which had it's own government, and West German legislative action did not apply to Berlin until it was formally enacted by the Berlin Bundestag as well, which, presumably, they were free to deny.

Gaza could turn out to be a virtual city-state, depending on how Palestinian Territories evolve.

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Old 09-21-2012, 01:23 AM
 
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Brunei is pretty close to a city-state, as are Kuwait, Qatar and Bahrain. More than 3/4 of Qatar's population lives in Doha, the capital.

The United Arab Emirates went through a period of time after WWII in which each city there was a city-state. They were the Emirates that became United.

Gdansk, Poland, and Trieste, Italy, and Tangier, Morocco, recently went through periods in which they were city-states.

West Berlin was a city-state, which had it's own government, and West German legislative action did not apply to Berlin until it was formally enacted by the Berlin Bundestag as well, which, presumably, they were free to deny.

Gaza could turn out to be a virtual city-state, depending on how Palestinian Territories evolve.
Brunei is actually even less dense than Malaysia.
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