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View Poll Results: Most Italian city outside Europe?
New York City, NY 57 25.11%
New Haven, CT 1 0.44%
Providence, RI 9 3.96%
Boston, MA 4 1.76%
Philadelphia, PA 4 1.76%
Toronto, ON 23 10.13%
Melbourne, Australia 12 5.29%
Sydney, Australia 1 0.44%
Perth, Australia 1 0.44%
Buenos Aires, Argentina 78 34.36%
Montevideo, Uruguay 8 3.52%
Other 29 12.78%
Voters: 227. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-15-2012, 06:17 AM
 
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Perth

 
Old 09-15-2012, 06:59 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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I think the New York Italians are more assimilated by now. Many New Yorkers don't know much about Italy except the Jersey Shore, and to say it's cool they're Italian.

Toronto Italians seem more Italian. Many are tied in to where they came from, regionally, and speak the language. An Italian radio program founded by Johnny Lombardi blares all day long. Alitalia goes to Rome and Milan daily from Toronto. There are some 650,000 of them in the metro area, so that's a substantial portion of the 4 million metro population.

That would make Toronto the 6th or 7th largest city in Italy if it's Italian population stood alone.
Are they as 'proud to be Italian' as the ones in the US and Oz? It seems not.

Surprised Melbourne hasn't got any votes (although I voted NYC) as along with NYC it's one of the world cities I associate with Italians.

I wonder if the Italians in BA are more integrated? Do they make BA any more different to the rest of S.America?
 
Old 09-15-2012, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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I wonder if the Italians in BA are more integrated? Do they make BA any more different to the rest of S.America?
This is quite an interesting article by an Italian American about the Italian influences in BA.
http://www.niaf.org/publications/amb...enos-Aires.pdf
 
Old 09-15-2012, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Where would it be then?
i don't think any city outside Europe is even remotely Italian. The people who live there might have Italian ancestry but that's it.
 
Old 09-15-2012, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Venice Italy
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i don't think any city outside Europe is even remotely Italian. The people who live there might have Italian ancestry but that's it.

UUMMMM......dunno what to put here.........take a look at this one


London was founded by the Romans under Claudius in 43 AD with the name Londinium, a fortified settlement equipped near the modern London Bridge. In Londinium the Italians did teach how to build walls, temples and streets...etc etc. In the third century London already had 30 000 inhabitants and with the Emperor Diocletian became the capital of the province Maxima Cesariensis and the economic capital of the whole Britain.

Not so bad for the first Italians abroad ..... they are everywhere..... among us .... they are Italians
 
Old 09-15-2012, 08:41 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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UUMMMM......dunno what to put here.........take a look at this one


London was founded by the Romans under Claudius in 43 AD with the name Londinium, a fortified settlement equipped near the modern London Bridge. In Londinium the Italians did teach how to build walls, temples and streets...etc etc. In the third century London already had 30 000 inhabitants and with the Emperor Diocletian became the capital of the province Maxima Cesariensis and the economic capital of the whole Britain.

Not so bad for the first Italians abroad ..... they are everywhere..... among us .... they are Italians
Also, the New World was 'founded' by an Italian from Genoa, Columbus, and America was supposed to have been named after Amerigo Vespucci, an Italian explorer from Florence. Heck even John Cabot was Italian.
 
Old 09-15-2012, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Venice Italy
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Also, the New World was 'founded' by an Italian from Genoa, Columbus, and America was supposed to have been named after Amerigo Vespucci, an Italian explorer from Florence. Heck even John Cabot was Italian.



Hi


you are right, I bet that the first to build something on the moon will be the Italians ( maybe a spaghetti house ) they never stop themselves
 
Old 09-15-2012, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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That's nice miticoman, nothing I didn't already know, and I'm not really sure what your point is, London is in Europe after all.
 
Old 09-15-2012, 09:46 AM
 
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I think you'll find a majority of Argentinians are of mixed European descent, though at least 45% of Argentineans have some Italian ancestry. That is unmatched anywhere else in the world besides nearby Uruguay and certain pockets of Brazil.

In Buenos Aires this percentage would be even higher being the first port of call for most migrants. For most of the 19th and 20th centuries Italian migrants outnumbered Spaniards 2 to 1.
the nationality of the original founding father country is often not included when listing the most common ancestry of a countrys population , hence why germany instead of england comes out on top in the usa and italy comes out on top in argentina , spain is way out ahead in reality
 
Old 09-15-2012, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Where the heart is...
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Are they as 'proud to be Italian' as the ones in the US and Oz? It seems not.

Surprised Melbourne hasn't got any votes (although I voted NYC) as along with NYC it's one of the world cities I associate with Italians.

I wonder if the Italians in BA are more integrated? Do they make BA any more different to the rest of S.America?
Yes...good question/point. Although Chicago is not an option in this survey (maybe by virtue of their numbers, maybe because of their assimilation, maybe something else) but they are certainly 'proud to be Italian', even in the best possible description of that term, still today!
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