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View Poll Results: Most Italian city outside Europe?
New York City, NY 57 25.11%
New Haven, CT 1 0.44%
Providence, RI 9 3.96%
Boston, MA 4 1.76%
Philadelphia, PA 4 1.76%
Toronto, ON 23 10.13%
Melbourne, Australia 12 5.29%
Sydney, Australia 1 0.44%
Perth, Australia 1 0.44%
Buenos Aires, Argentina 78 34.36%
Montevideo, Uruguay 8 3.52%
Other 29 12.78%
Voters: 227. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-17-2012, 07:35 PM
 
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The numbers games is very important. Even if people in Argentina don't speak Italian they live a lifestyle and physically look like Italians. When you go to Toronto it has it's Italian parts for sure but it doesn't feel overwhelmingly Italian. BA does. No people in Argentina don't maybe speak Italian or stay in contact with Italy, but ouside of that, almost everyone there looks, eats, drinks and dresses like an Italian. Then on top of that the city itself looks like it could be Italian. Those are all thing that Toronto does not have. Yes they have a Italian population but it doesn't overwhelm like it does in Buenos Aires.
You picked criteria 1 (numbers).
I picked criteria 2 (recency/ties).
For me, being able to have a conversation in Italian with someone from the "old country" makes it fun, especially if they're first-gens and we have things to make fun of - on both sides of the pond. I've had a couple of flights from Toronto to Italy sitting next to Torontonians where the 8 hour flight felt like 2 hours because of their being plugged in to Italy and great chemistry.
There's no right answer. Just a matter of opinions and experiences.

 
Old 09-18-2012, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I have been to all of the cities on this list and I wouldn't have picked up Buenos Aires as number one at first but people here have now sold me on it. I think one reason I hesitated is because I also noticed how no one spoke Italian in BA but seriously it is true that the feel of the city is quite similar to an Italian city - probably also because the Spanish and Italian cultures back in Europe have similarities as well, and they both have greatly influenced BA.
 
Old 09-18-2012, 01:35 PM
 
Location: New York metropolitan area
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New Jersey hands down!

Montreal has also lots of Italians, as well as many U.S. northeastern cities.
 
Old 09-18-2012, 01:50 PM
 
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New Jersey hands down!

Montreal has also lots of Italians, as well as many U.S. northeastern cities.
And you must have cast the vote that pushed NY ahead of Toronto.

What does MOST mean to you? Acting "Jersey" doesn't qualify one as being very Italian, even if they are 100%.

(I'm surprised that Melbourne hasn't even gotten one vote, BTW).
 
Old 09-18-2012, 02:14 PM
 
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I live in Toronto, on a street called Via Italia.

My vote goes to Toronto.

Jim B.

Toronto.
you live on via Italia? My wives god mother lives on that street across from the parking lot..actually I think the street is Mckay
 
Old 09-18-2012, 02:22 PM
 
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you live on via Italia? My wives god mother lives on that street across from the parking lot..actually I think the street is Mckay
Hey, I've been to Toronto 4x, and what the hell is Via Italia? Is it College, St. Clair, or another one?
 
Old 09-18-2012, 02:26 PM
 
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Yes, if anything, they are slightly MORE proud in Toronto and Montreal. The 20 year old kid of Italian parents in Canada probably knows more about his Italian roots and can talk about it than does the 20 year old, or 40 year old, Guido in Brooklyn or the Jersey suburbs. Ditto for the Greeks and Portuguese in these same Canadian cities vis-a-vis those in the States. I used Air Canada to go to Europe in July and was surprised to see Italian-Canadians fluent in the language, as in "spoken in the home" fluency versus school-acquired fluency. There was a couple in front of me, both mid 30s with their 2 daughters in between them, who were flying back from seeing relatives in Italy and were, again, fluent. You would NOT see that in the States, because the Italian dude would have chased some blonde chick. Heck, in some US cities, there isn't much of a choice, especially if they're an Italian in primarily Germanic St. Louis.
has to do with the Canadian culture which is basically multi-culturism where maintaining cultural roots is celebrated vs the US melting pot..you are one of us now..be American
 
Old 09-18-2012, 02:27 PM
 
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Hey, I've been to Toronto 4x, and what the hell is Via Italia? Is it College, St. Clair, or another one?
via italia is a street off of St Clair near the intersection of dufferin/st clair
 
Old 09-18-2012, 02:27 PM
 
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Buenos Aires is the most ITALIAN city in the new world by far. New York is more Sicilian maybe, same goes for the other east-coast US cities.
 
Old 09-18-2012, 02:30 PM
 
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has to do with the Canadian culture which is basically multi-culturism where maintaining cultural roots is celebrated vs the US melting pot..you are one of us now..be American
I like the Canadian model better. Maybe that's why I've vacationed in Canada so many times that they are extra suspicious at the border control going in.
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