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Old 10-28-2012, 03:49 PM
 
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The way things are going, eventually everyone will speak English, shop exclusively at Walmart, there will be a Starbucks and sushi place on every corner, little kids in China and Nigeria will be able to quote Jersey Shore and American-style corporatism will be the only kind of system in existence.

Is this the way you want the world to be?
Yes. It won't be like you stated, but I do think it is good that all people have access to the best (or worst, depending on perspective) the world has to offer. Not everyone will choose to shop at Walmart and Starbucks or quote Jersey Shore. I've lived my whole life in the USA and don't do those things.

American-style corporations will predominate because they are best suited for delivering the supply to the demand. You make Capitalism seem like a bad thing (I know, it's quite in vogue), but the alternatives are much worse.
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Old 10-29-2012, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Richmond/Philadelphia/Brooklyn
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Economically, it may be good monetarily, but it also disconnects producer from consumer, homogenizes culture, and since products are being built in such large quantities, a decline in the quality of many products (processed food, plastics)
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:36 PM
 
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Economically, it may be good monetarily, but it also disconnects producer from consumer, homogenizes culture, and since products are being built in such large quantities, a decline in the quality of many products (processed food, plastics)
I've noticed how cheap and plasticy everything looks these days, even compared to the 70s or 80s more things were made of brick, stone and metal.
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:49 PM
 
Location: WA
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That's the right point. And the more correct one is - capitalists are pushing the "American way", because it's good for them.

EU resists it to some extent for decades. And now America is crumbling...
Please, do tell us who "the capitalists" are--it's always interesting to see which blatantly anti-capitalist plutocrats are being held up by the delusional, narcissistic proletarians as the epitome of all things bourgeois.

And it seems to me that the only things the EU has actually been resisting for decades are general competence and democratic leadership...so what exactly do you mean here? That the EU does a good job (compared to the U.S.) of resisting crony-capitalism?

It's not looking that way from over here, pal. Europe's failed attempt at nation-building isn't going to save any of you from anything--when the U.S. goes, the rest of the crime family will fall with it.
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Old 10-29-2012, 05:13 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Talk about globalization the BBC news just spent the last 10 minutes if a 30 minute prgramme discussing hurricane sandy.
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Old 10-29-2012, 06:38 PM
 
Location: WA
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Talk about globalization the BBC news just spent the last 10 minutes if a 30 minute prgramme discussing hurricane sandy.
I think I'd rather hear about a natural disaster for ten minutes than have every media outlet in the country clamoring on about some stupid wedding, if you know what I mean.

Americans feel your pain...
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Old 10-29-2012, 06:39 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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I don't know...I think I'd rather hear about a natural disaster for ten minutes than have every media outlet in the country clamoring on about some stupid wedding, if you know what I mean.
Kim Kardashian?
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Old 10-29-2012, 06:41 PM
 
Location: WA
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Kim Kardashian?
Damn it, I just edited that, haha!

Now work with me here...
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:37 PM
 
Location: WA
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I'm just playing around, i assume your talking about William and Kate. That wedding was only popular because of all the women and their crazy hats.
No, really, Kim Kardashian was just as good a guess as any, because like her British Royal counterparts, she's little more than a pampered spoiled brat who gets a lot of media attention (but hey, at least she isn't taxpayer funded, right?).

So yes, you're correct, I was referring to the televised pomp and nonsense surrounding the wedding of William and Kate, a nauseating affair if ever there was one.

Thank God for globalization, right?
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:33 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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Who's to say they want to be like us? Maybe they feel like they have to speak English and go capitalist if they want to survive. Maybe the advertising power of the American media more or less brainwashes foreigners to adopt their shallow pop culture so they can become a part of the empire.

The USA is crumbling in my opinion though. Our political system is a joke, our infrastructure is older than most of our people and we haven't contributed anything significant to the arts in at least 25 years.
The world speaking English wouldnt be 'Americanization' now would it? The clue is in the name of the language!! And because in the modern world we drive around in cars does it mean we have all been 'Germanized'? Maybe because a lot of New Yorkers use the subway or because of the railways in the US you could argue that they have been 'Englishized', maybe because a lot of people in the world today wear denim we could say we have all been 'Francized'!! I hear pizza and pasta is eaten rather a lot in the US too - perhaps americans have been 'Italianized' in their way of eating???
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