Do you think Korean, Japanese.culture etc will gradually change the ideal perception of male beauty in the West? (gated, areas)

[Trimac20]

Not supplant, but maybe just present an 'alternative' model of male beauty in the West?

It seems the younger generation is getting more into Japanese/Korean/Asian culture in general, and some of the K-Pop stars, for instance, are getting pretty popular in Latin America and to a lesser extent North America.

Will this make Asian guys seem more attractive overall than they are now? Rather than say, presenting Asian American males in a more positive light?

I do think for all their faults the younger generation really is less race-conscious. A generation where PC-mantras about equality have been drummed into their heads, but where borders are more transient.

[BIMBAM]

Originally Posted by Trimac20

Not supplant, but maybe just present an 'alternative' model of male beauty in the West?

It seems the younger generation is getting more into Japanese/Korean/Asian culture in general, and some of the K-Pop stars, for instance, are getting pretty popular in Latin America and to a lesser extent North America.

Will this make Asian guys seem more attractive overall than they are now? Rather than say, presenting Asian American males in a more positive light?

I do think for all their faults the younger generation really is less race-conscious. A generation where PC-mantras about equality have been drummed into their heads, but where borders are more transient.

I think it depends on the geographic locale. People tend not to be very attracted to people from other races if they don't interact with them socially and get used to thinking about them as potential romantic partners. I think what you're saying may help somewhat, but only in areas that also have alot of asians in them.

[glass_of_merlot]

Not a chance.

[kyh]

Even myself as an Asian male, I find the male beauty propagated by K and J-pop aversive. What's with the heavy makeups, any-colour-but-black hair, thin eyebrows, smooth, pale-white skin? Sorry, these are territories that should only be reserved for females, not males.

[Trimac20]

Originally Posted by kyh

Even myself as an Asian male, I find the male beauty propagated by K and J-pop aversive. What's with the heavy makeups, any-colour-but-black hair, thin eyebrows, smooth, pale-white skin? Sorry, these are territories that should only be reserved for females, not males.

They are feminine. Quite a few of them have dyed hair, but yeah the anime look definitely dominates. Maybe it's too different from the macho ideal of the past.

[Smtchll]

I don't think people of European-descent will be able to identify with the look, and people of African-descent sure as hell won't. But who knows...

[Citizen401]

Originally Posted by kyh

Even myself as an Asian male, I find the male beauty propagated by K and J-pop aversive. What's with the heavy makeups, any-colour-but-black hair, thin eyebrows, smooth, pale-white skin? Sorry, these are territories that should only be reserved for females, not males.

+1.

That is not to say that good looking asian men all fall into the effeminate camp.



This is just an ephemeral cultural fad that much of SE asia is being afflicted with, somewhat like the penchant for boy bands and the Bieber phenomenon that we experience here.

[bmw335xi]

European and Asian styles are actually more similar than they are different. Everything is tight fitting. This is the trend in the US too.

[kyh]

If you compared the J-pop's idealized version of male beauty to the Samurai warriors or even the army of the WWII era, it's shocking to see the fast disappearance of masculine, macho culture among Japanese males in favour of femininity in contemporary Japanese society.

[Trimac20]

Yeah it's gone overboard, but a broader question I want to ask is why is feminine so bad? I mean anime characters are portrayed as both feminine looking but very masculine in behaviour.