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Old 11-29-2007, 10:06 PM
Location: Camberville
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In no particular order:

-King Juan Carlos of Spain: Took back Spain from the evils that Franco created. Franco thought he was installing a supporter and instead he is doing cartwheels in his grave that Spain was opened up for democracy

-Aung San Suu Kyi: Has spent decades working to free her country of an oppressive government despite personal tragedy and danger to herself

-Evo Morales: I don't agree with quite a bit of what he does or thinks, but he pulled himself up from literally the BANE of Latin American society- an indigenous farmer- to the presidency. This is something to look up to for all underrepresented groups.

-Yitzak Rabin: for being a truly humane and decent leader in the face of so much hatred from BOTH sides

-F. W. de Klerk: Did the amazing job of a mostly peaceful transfer of power from the white minority to the black majority at the end of South African apartheid- the whole situation could have blown up if de Klerk had not taken the action that he did. There is speculation that he may have ordered assassinations, which, while despicable, probably allowed the transfer of power to not turn into another Algeria

-Teddy Roosevelt: Simply one of the best presidents by any standards. Who can argue against busting trusts of corrupt businesses, conservation, the National Park system, the Panama Canal, and general centrism? Or, for that matter, this list of
  1. In the sphere of race relations, Booker T. Washington became the first black man to dine as a guest at the White House in 1901.
  2. Oscar S. Straus became the first Jewish person appointed as a Cabinet Secretary, under Roosevelt.
  3. In August, 1902, Roosevelt became the first president to take a public automobile ride. This occurred during a parade in Hartford, Connecticut
  4. In 1902, in response to the assassination of President William McKinley on September 6, 1901, Theodore Roosevelt became the first president to be under constant Secret Service protection.
  5. In 1906, Roosevelt became the first American to be awarded a Nobel Prize.
  6. In 1906, he made the first trip, by a President, outside the United States, visiting Panama to inspect the construction progress of the Panama Canal on November 9.
  7. He was the first and to date only president from Long Island, New York.
  8. He was the first President to refer to the White House as such on his official stationery. Until then the mansion had been referred to simply as "The Executive Mansion"
  9. He was the first President to fly in an airplane.
  10. He was the first President to wear a necktie for his official Presidential Portrait.
  11. He was the first President to approve a coin, the Lincoln cent, with a man's face on it, in 1909, just in time for the centennial of Lincoln's birth. Lincoln was Roosevelt's presidential hero.
  12. He was the first President to ride in a military submarine when he boarded the USS Holland (SS-1).
  13. In 2001, he became the first and only President up to date to receive a Medal of Honor
  14. He was the first President whose offhand remark, "good to the last drop," about some coffee drunk at the Maxwell House hotel in Tennesee, would become an internationally recognized trademark Maxwell House coffee.

On the topic of Hitler- he was indeed a great leader. A moral leader? Not in the least? A good leader? No. A leader anyone should try to emulate? Not unless you're a serial killer. But he was a great communicator in that he could convince a large, highly educated country to commit one of the worst atrocities in history.
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Old 02-27-2011, 01:23 PM
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Abraham Lincoln
Mohandas Ghandi
Nelson Mandela
King Leonidas of Sparta
Robert Edward Lee
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Old 03-01-2011, 02:40 PM
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deng xiaoping - reformer who led China towards a market economy.

lee kuan yew - during the three decades in which Lee held office, Singapore grew from being a developing country to one of the most developed nations in Asia, despite its small population, limited land space & lack of natural resources.
i think if he had ran zimbabwe, that hell hole of a country would be alot different today.
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Old 03-02-2011, 02:54 AM
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Steven Paul Jobs is one of them
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Old 03-02-2011, 04:14 AM
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If we want to go in terms of improving development, without necessarily caring about democracy or human rights, the following could look good.

Quett Masire of Botswana - I think they are at least quasi-democratic though. Anyway he was their leader from 1980 to 1998. In that period Botswana developed quite well, in 1990 it was listed as more developed than Turkey, although it saw some setback in the 1990s due to HIV/AIDS. He might be close to legitimately good rather than "good for a dictator" good.

Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani - Iran apparently went through fairly good modernization and rebuilding during his regime.

Deng Xiaoping as mentioned. He's a good example of a modernizing leader of an authoritarian regime. Lee Kwan Yew could be as well, but Singapore's more of a "mixed system" that allows a good deal more freedom than Deng ever did. A more clearly authoritarian Asian ruler, Park Chung-hee, also presided over a rapid increase in economy and development.

Augusto Pinochet - Chilean development greatly improved under him.

This is not really how I'd think of "best" though. Going more by my thinking.

Abraham Lincoln - Held the country together during a Civil War.

Casimir III the Great - Not democratic or peaceful, but in that age no one was those things. He did revitalize his country and had an admirably enlightened tolerance for the Jewish population.

Hayato Ikeda - Apparently an important figure in Japan's "economic miracle."

Jose Figueres Ferrer - Well maybe, it sounds like he played a role in Costa Rica being one of the most stable nations in Central America.

Vaclav Havel - Not sure he was the greatest leader in the world, but he sounds like a swell guy.

I feel like I'm missing several obvious choices though.
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