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Old 04-15-2013, 05:58 AM
 
Location: EU
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Because American English is not De Facto English and it is not correct English. So in my opinion they are learning misspelled English with spelling mistakes.
The differences in spelling are minor and usually reflect earlier British usage. I just wonder, again, what they teach you in school, or are these just your own theories?
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:30 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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American English is an evolved from of Early Modern English aka Shakespearean English. Are you saying ol' Bill didn't speak English correctly? If you recall, the US was settled shortly after Shakespeare died. You should look at government records written in the 1600s you'll be aghast by how "incorrectly" everything was "spell'd" or "writ"




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Talking of Shakespeare, I sometimes wonder about his accent? People from his 'neck of the woods' these days have a kind of 'Brummie' accent - 'to be or not to be, that is the question' in Brummie would bring a smile to my face! lol
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:38 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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I'm American and I don't like American accents.


I especially loathe this recent trend of going up a half step at the end of the sentence, and making every sentence sound like a question. It's ANNOYING.
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Gorgeous Scotland
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I live in America!
Americans don't distinguish writer and rider, unless in very formal speech.
I lived there for nearly 5 decades in 4 different states, and never heard anyone make the t in beautiful into a d. For many other words yes, but not this one, and not writer/rider either.
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:56 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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I lived there for nearly 5 decades in 4 different states, and never heard anyone make the t in beautiful into a d. For many other words yes, but not this one, and not writer/rider either.
I hear people put a D in place of a T all the time. I'm in Texas. It's very common here for people to pronounce 'writer' and 'rider' exactly the same. They also voice the T in beautiful, making it sound like a D.

What states did you live in?
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Gorgeous Scotland
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I hear people put a D in place of a T all the time. I'm in Texas. It's very common here for people to pronounce 'writer' and 'rider' exactly the same. They also voice the T in beautiful, making it sound like a D.

What states did you live in?
Yes, many words with a t are pronounced like a d. I lived in TN, MI, FL and MA.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:34 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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Yes, many words with a t are pronounced like a d. I lived in TN, MI, FL and MA.
There aren't nearly as many regional differences with American accents as there are in the UK, where the accent seems to change every few miles or so...but we do have some regional differences. I think this might be one of them.

Are you Scottish (given your username)? I lived in the UK for a while and loved the Scottish accent from Edinburgh.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Gorgeous Scotland
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There aren't nearly as many regional differences with American accents as there are in the UK, where the accent seems to change every few miles or so...but we do have some regional differences. I think this might be one of them.

Are you Scottish (given your username)? I lived in the UK for a while and loved the Scottish accent from Edinburgh.
Nope. I'm American with just a small drop of Scottish blood. I lived the longest in Michigan and Michigan has a distinct accent and words they use that are different from the rest of the midwest. I've even had Scots pick up that I'm either Great Lakes or Canadian.

I live in the west and the accents are much different from Edinburgh.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:55 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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Nope. I'm American with just a small drop of Scottish blood. I lived the longest in Michigan and Michigan has a distinct accent and words they use that are different from the rest of the midwest. I've even had Scots pick up that I'm either Great Lakes or Canadian.

I live in the west and the accents are much different from Edinburgh.
Yes, they are; western Scottish accents sound more harsh and sharp to my ear than those from Edinburgh, which are much softer and melodic. I never had trouble understanding people from Edinburgh but I practically needed subtitles for people from Glasgow.
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Old 04-15-2013, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Gorgeous Scotland
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Yes, they are; western Scottish accents sound more harsh and sharp to my ear than those from Edinburgh, which are much softer and melodic. I never had trouble understanding people from Edinburgh but I practically needed subtitles for people from Glasgow.
Glasgow has its own unique accent. Still hard to for me to understand but I'm not around it every day. I like the accents around Argyll, nothing like a Glawegian one. I only get to Edinburgh a few times a year and find that many people sound like they have a mouth full of marbles! Edinburgh is the most English city in Scotland, and sounds like it.
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