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Old 04-06-2013, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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I understand your frustration - as I pointed out earlier, my son in law is Hispanic but not from Mexico, and he gets tired of people assuming that his ancestry is Mexican.

That being said, let's put some perspective on why SOME Americans assume that Hispanics are probably of Mexican origin. Because they PROBABLY are.

Sixty three percent of the hispanics in the US are of Mexican heritage. 9.2 are of Puerto Rican descent. Another 9 percent are from Central America. This means that less than 20 percent come from other regions of the world. Furthermore, half of the Cuban Hispanics live in Dade County! And nearly half of the Hispanics from the Dominican Republic live in NYC.

So the vast majority of Hispanics that the average US citizen runs across DO "come from Mexico" (they or their ancestors).

Hispanic Americans: Census Facts | Infoplease.com

Here in Texas, I don't run across many people who think that "Mexican" or "hispanic" is a particular race. We are very cognizant of the fact that "Hispanic" ties to a country of family origin, and an ethnicity - not one particular race. People from Mexico, who make up a huge chunk of our population here, have a wide variety of looks, coloring, etc.
But thats exactly what im saying. The fact that the vast majority of the hispanics in USA are from Mexican origin, does not mean all the rest of Latin America is exactly like Mexico. You also say than over 80% are from mexico and central america.
So I guess countries like Peru, Argentina, Chile, or Uruguay are nowhere near the majority of hispanic inmigrants. And that means those inmigrants you know, might have nothing to do with any of this nations. But an Uruguayan is equally hispanic than a Mexican, however, and uruguayan is completely different from a Mexican in MANY aspects.
Thats why is wrong to assume an uruguayan is just like a Mexican, in customes, traditions, looks, culture, etc.

It is not.

Maybe you should start calling people by their nationality? and stop treating hispanic as if it was a race? This is all im saying.

Isnt this fair for the other nations whose identity is being ignored and lumped into an identity thats nothing like theirs?
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Old 04-06-2013, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Plus, lets face it, "hispanic" haves a negative connotation in american culture, due to illegal inmigration and whatnot. Its not fun to be treated as an illegal when you set foot on USA floor, just cause you are hispanic. Argentinians go to USA to travel, not to being an ilegal alien. And that goes for the rest of the Latin countries.

Two separate thing are occuring: 1) some countries are being deprived of their own identity by a new identity thats nothing like theirs.
2) some countries are being labeled as "ilegal aliens" even when theres virtually no people from their country living illegaly in USA.


None of this things are fair.
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Old 04-06-2013, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Plus, lets face it, "hispanic" haves a negative connotation in american culture, due to illegal inmigration and whatnot. Its not fun to be treated as an illegal when you set foot on USA floor, just cause you are hispanic. Argentinians go to USA to travel, not to being an ilegal alien. And that goes for the rest of the Latin countries.

Two separate thing are occuring: 1) some countries are being deprived of their own identity by a new identity thats nothing like theirs.
2) some countries are being labeled as "ilegal aliens" even when theres virtually no people from their country living illegaly in USA.


None of this things are fair.
Of course it's not fair, but it probably isn't going to change. I for instance have given up, mostly, trying to convince people that Canada isn't some socialist frozen hell hole.
People have to want to care about an issue to learn about it. Their loss.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:01 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Of course it's not fair, but it probably isn't going to change. I for instance have given up, mostly, trying to convince people that Canada isn't some socialist frozen hell hole.
People have to want to care about an issue to learn about it. Their loss.
I used to think all of Canada is colder than Minnesota, than i noticed Minneapolis is actually north of Toronto and palm trees can grow in B.C.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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^^^ When I look at Detroit, I'm actually looking north. lol


BC even has a rain forest, cactus & tumbleweed.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I used to think all of Canada is colder than Minnesota, than i noticed Minneapolis is actually north of Toronto and palm trees can grow in B.C.
True, but a certain type only...I think the same that they have in southern England.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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True, but a certain type only...I think the same that they have in southern England.

Natnasci, are those native to BC, or were they brought there.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Natnasci, are those native to BC, or were they brought there.
Not native, but then again Palm trees are not native to California either. Whoops one is native. From KCET.ORG
"Washingtonia filifera, the California fan palm—is native to California. All of L.A.'s other palm species, from the slender Mexican fan palms that line so many L.A. boulevards to the feather-topped Canary Island date palm, have been imported. "

and just to stay on topic, none are referred to as Hispanic Palms.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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and just to stay on topic, none are referred to as Hispanic Palms.
lol
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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But thats exactly what im saying. The fact that the vast majority of the hispanics in USA are from Mexican origin, does not mean all the rest of Latin America is exactly like Mexico. You also say than over 80% are from mexico and central america.
So I guess countries like Peru, Argentina, Chile, or Uruguay are nowhere near the majority of hispanic inmigrants. And that means those inmigrants you know, might have nothing to do with any of this nations. But an Uruguayan is equally hispanic than a Mexican, however, and uruguayan is completely different from a Mexican in MANY aspects.
Thats why is wrong to assume an uruguayan is just like a Mexican, in customes, traditions, looks, culture, etc.

It is not.

Maybe you should start calling people by their nationality? and stop treating hispanic as if it was a race? This is all im saying.

Isnt this fair for the other nations whose identity is being ignored and lumped into an identity thats nothing like theirs?
I personally don't know any Texans (or Americans for that matter) who think that "Hispanic" is the definition of a race. I'm sure they're out there, but here in Texas I don't run into that issue.
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