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Old 04-23-2013, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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White British?

White Irish?

British are not "white". White is a term created in the USA to group together people from north Africa, middle east, and Europe.

British are British period, they are light skinned, and very different from a standard "white" from the USA.

Irish are Irish period.

White isn't a race. Shape of head, blood type, height, hair color, etc are very different among North Africans, Jews, and Europeans.

Apples, bananas, and lemons..
Good lord. I've heard many nouveau-definitions for races, racism and ethnicity, but this is utterly ridiculous.

Its a fair assumption that you are completely ignorant to the fact that a great many of the "white" people in the U.S. came from England and Ireland. I suggest googling "Ellis Island", "the Mayflower" and "Irish potato famine" before continuing in this conversation.
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:37 PM
 
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Jews are a race and aren't "European"...oh where have we heard this before???
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:43 PM
 
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Good lord. I've heard many nouveau-definitions for races, racism and ethnicity, but this is utterly ridiculous.

Its a fair assumption that you are completely ignorant to the fact that a great many of the "white" people in the U.S. came from England and Ireland. I suggest googling "Ellis Island", "the Mayflower" and "Irish potato famine" before continuing in this conversation.
Yes, I'm not sure how white "British" (they're a nationality not an ethnic group let alone a race) are so distinctive from "standard white Americans" most of whom are of Northwest European ancestry.

This is 19th century anthropology stuff.
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:12 PM
 
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White British?

White Irish?

British are not "white". White is a term created in the USA to group together people from north Africa, middle east, and Europe.

British are British period, they are light skinned, and very different from a standard "white" from the USA.

Irish are Irish period.

White isn't a race. Shape of head, blood type, height, hair color, etc are very different among North Africans, Jews, and Europeans.

Apples, bananas, and lemons..
nonsense post
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:42 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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As much as you want to blame this on americans you cant because the OP is from canada anyway listen BRITISH ARE WHITE.
Only the white ones are :-)
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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Why do thread topics always get derailed by irrelevant arguments about things that have little or nothing to do with the original topic? Can't we forget the question of whether British people are white (which most are. Obviously white is not an ethnicity, but white or Caucasian is a race shared by many different ethnicities) and move back to the debate about the ethnic and racial diversity of the cities in question?
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
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Only the white ones are :-)
shhhhh...
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Old 04-24-2013, 12:43 PM
 
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Some of the leading European groups in London:

"White Irish" 175,974 (2.2%) - obviously the number of Irish ancestry is much higher.
White Other 1,033,981 (12.6%) - no further breakdown.

Leading European countries of birth, London:

Poland 158,300 (1.9%)
Ireland 129,807 (1.6%)
France 66,654 (0.8%)
Italy 62,050 (0.8%)
Germany 55,476 (0.7%) *some born on British military bases
Romania 44,848 (0.5%)
Portugal 41,041 (0.5%)

Leading European ancestry groups, NYC:

Italian 589,803 (7.2%)
Irish 414,943 (5.1%)
German 256,720 (3.1%)
Russian 234,035 (2.9%)
Polish 211,310 (2.6%)
English 140,557 (1.7%)
Greek 75,567 (0.9%)
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Old 04-24-2013, 01:58 PM
 
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I'm guessing that NYC's white population is probably about 30% Jewish and 20% Italian, while London is probably 60% "old-stock" English/Scottish/Welsh and 75% "old-stock" British and Irish.

Last edited by King of Kensington; 04-24-2013 at 02:12 PM..
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Nyc, london and toronto all have incredible breadth of diversity but for combination breadth and depth id have to go with Toronto
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