Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > World Forums > World
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: Who should host the 2020 summer Olympics? Istanbul, Madrid, or Tokyo?
Istanbul 37 50.68%
Madrid 15 20.55%
Tokyo 21 28.77%
Voters: 73. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-04-2013, 10:17 AM
 
40 posts, read 82,274 times
Reputation: 87

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthCali4LifeSD View Post
With the exception of Athens, Greece, and probably the Bird's Nest in Beijing, not true. A host city spends most of its Olympic budget on infrastructure improvements and new buildings that are used by local citizens and tourists for generations. Further, the international exposure a city receives from the Games bolsters tourism. Most cities in recent history have a net profit from the Games.

Cost of the Olympic Games - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yes it is true. The article you posted is simply hard losses and gains from the event itself as does not take in long term costs which it specifically notes. Almost all economic studies agree that over the long term the majority of Olympics negatively impact the area and its citizens financially.

As for infrastructure that is the main problem. The infrastructure investments are horrible and the idea that most of the places become long standing high use attractions just simply isn't backed up by any research. The reality is that is soon as the Olympics are over there are almost NO long term lasting tourist impacts on the area and investing into sports infrastructure at a level that the city can not support on it's own outside of the Olympics turns into a horrible waste of public funds. Over time the maintenance costs almost always eat through the "profits" of the Olympics and drag the city into the red for decades to come. And of course worst of all is that it eats up funds that should have went to far more productive infrastructure projects.

I mean outside of Olympic propaganda it should be extremely easy to see with even limited economic understanding that pouring tons of money into a short term event that isn't remotely close to what the city can maintain on it's own will be a horribly inefficient use of resources more often than not over the long term.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-06-2013, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Toronto
33 posts, read 269,248 times
Reputation: 57
I voted for Tokyo
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-06-2013, 12:26 PM
 
6,467 posts, read 8,188,270 times
Reputation: 5515
Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthCali4LifeSD View Post
You're right, if the rotation extended to all the 'Olympic rings', then North America won't get the Games back for awhile. On that note, Europe seems to host the games too frequently... in recent memory, we have Sochi in 2014, London in 2012, Turin in 2006, Athens in 2004, Norway in 1994, Barcelona in 1992, and France also in 1992 when the winter Games were played the same year.
USA and Canada:

1980: Lake Placid, United States
1984: Los Angeles, United States
1988: Calgary, Canada
1996: Atlanta, United States
2002: Salt Lake City, United States
2010: Vancouver, Canada

Winter Olympics - since 1970:
Europe: 6 (Austria, Yugoslavia, France, Norway, Italy, Russia)
North America: 4 (US, Canada, US, Canada)

Summer Olympics - since 1970:
Europe: 5 (West Germany, Soviet Union, Spain, Greece, UK)
North America: 3 (Canada, US, US)

Population 2011:
Europe: 738,523,843
USA and Canada: 346,962,126
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-07-2013, 04:48 PM
 
71 posts, read 149,451 times
Reputation: 38
it will be between madrid and tokyo. istanbul is decades behind in infrastructure and is in the middle of a volatile region. madrid and tokyo are two of the safest most advanced cities on .iearth. the odd terrorist attack doesnt change that fact.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-07-2013, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Denver/Atlanta
6,083 posts, read 10,704,020 times
Reputation: 5872
I think Istanbul would be interesting.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-08-2013, 10:45 AM
 
91 posts, read 147,340 times
Reputation: 36
Barcelona 92' wrecked Barcelona, so I don't want Olympics to wreck Madrid.
I'm for Istambul.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-08-2013, 01:08 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
9,169 posts, read 13,249,970 times
Reputation: 10141
Default Istanbul, Tokyo, and Madrid, the three finalists for the 2020 summer Olympics

Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthCali4LifeSD View Post
Which city should host the 2020 summer Olympics? Istanbul, Madrid, or Tokyo? and why?

The winner will be announced at an IOC conference in Buenos Aires on September 7, 2013.
I voted for Tokyo but I can see Madrid also.

I am personally against Istanbul, not because of the city but because of the bizzare attitudes of the Turks. Apparently they do not like anyone else. Here is the positive favorability results of Turkish voters on the Pew Research Global Attitudes poll:

15% favorable - the United States
15% favorable - NATO alliance (even though Turkey is part of it!!)
16% favorable - Russia
17% favorable - the United Nations (only 17% favorable for the UN!!!)
21% favorable - the European Union
22% favorable - China
26% favorable - Iran

Opinion of the UN (Unfavorable) (2012) - Indicators Database | Pew Global Attitudes Project

This is the website that shows the latest polls. If you notice, Turkey is usually at the bottom of the list for favorability of other countries and near the top for unfavorable. This is not new, this is something I have noticed for several years now.

I guess you can sort of understand the various reasons why some Turks may be upset with countries like the United States, Russia, the EU and Iran. But by these numbers? And what did China ever do wrong to the Turks? 61% of Turks do not like the United Nations? Most do not like NATO which helped preserve their independence from the Soviet Union during the Cold War? I have even seen polls where the Turks are against Hamas and other Muslim groups.

Sorry about the long rant. I just cannot figure the Turks out LOL. Maybe there are some Turkish people here who can explain this.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2013, 10:08 PM
 
71 posts, read 149,451 times
Reputation: 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by nabocov View Post
Barcelona 92' wrecked Barcelona, so I don't want Olympics to wreck Madrid.
I'm for Istambul.
thats actually a good point. was in madrid and barcelona last september and thoroughly enjoyed madrid much more. it was still a typical spanish authentic city. barcelona ive always known to be different. but it felt like a sort of disneyland. i too hope this does not happen to madrid if they were to win the olympicd.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:38 AM
 
91 posts, read 147,340 times
Reputation: 36
I do miss pre-Olympic Barcelona a lot. The problem with Barcelona is that all tourists go to the same place, Gothic Quarter, Ramblas, Born, Raval.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-11-2013, 02:30 AM
 
Location: Boise,Helena & Bangalore
13 posts, read 45,127 times
Reputation: 24
My vote goes to Istanbul.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > World Forums > World
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:20 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top