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Old 10-17-2019, 06:03 AM
 
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The title of this thread is absurd.You could put on that same title replacing ITaly and Spain with the USA and UK and it would be just as absurd.

-There are even many more people perhaps livingin third world living standard in the USA that in Italy and Spain.-

There are people who confuse the military and Economic Power with the quality of life of the population.-
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Old 10-18-2019, 08:47 AM
 
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I feel Naples and Palermo have a second world feel to it.
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Old 10-19-2019, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Near Luxembourg
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I feel Naples and Palermo have a second world feel to it.
South Italy is something... I loved Naples but I have to admit it's far from Copenhaguen or London or whatever...
I just came back from Milan, it's definitely first world.
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Old 10-19-2019, 01:07 PM
 
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Spain for sure. The others not but still a lot more developed than the countries of the developing world.
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Old 10-19-2019, 01:09 PM
 
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Spain for sure. The others not but still a lot more developed than the countries in the developing world.
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Old 10-20-2019, 03:51 PM
 
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Northern Italy is one of the most developed areas in the World.

Southern Italy is beautiful but its economic and social level is much lower.

In Spain there are more industrialized areas than others as in all Countries but their economics differences are not extreme although are very different geographically and culturally.

But in Italy and Spain social Security the Public health and public education and public transports fairly compensate enough for economic differences a largely balance the differents levels of wealth in different areas.-
Especially in Spain where regional economic differences are not as marked as in Italy .- It is what is called the ,(Welfare State Regional).-
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Old 10-20-2019, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Australia
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I feel Naples and Palermo have a second world feel to it.
Southern Italy is not as poor as it looks. There is definitely an unemployment problem but there is also a huge black economy. Unfortunately the mafia is also still operating and many people hide their wealth from them and from the tax department. So shabby old houses, on the outside, often are immaculate and modern inside. Italians have a high rate of saving, a welfare system that is far more generous than the is good for the country, a good healthcare system, cheap education and excellent food. It is very much a first world country.
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Old 10-20-2019, 06:26 PM
 
Location: NC But Soon, The Desert
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I've been to Spain once, Italy three times - never had the good fortune to visit Portugal or Greece. There were dodgy areas of Barcelona, Florence, Venice, Rome, and Pisa (Assisi not so much) but that's to be expected in every country on earth.

Who came up with that First World/Second World/Third World nonsense? It only serves to make one group of people feel superior to others.

Parts of London, Paris, Berlin, Washington DC, and several other cities I've been to, look shady as h**l.
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