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Old 07-05-2013, 09:50 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Portugal feels more like the Sahara these days, 42° today in the hinterland
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Old 07-06-2013, 04:25 AM
 
Location: Europe
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Is Ireland any better?
No
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Portugal feels more like the Sahara these days, 42° today in the hinterland
The same here in Spain.
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Old 07-06-2013, 04:59 AM
 
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Is Ireland any better?
They are not really comparable. Ireland is a very small country and very globalised. Spain has 10 times the population. I think both Spain and Ireland had a housing bubble and a banking crisis. I think of all the countries with econonic problems Ireland will come out of it faster due to its small size and more adaptable economy. Also Spain was a colonial power whereas Ireland was controlled by Britain.

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Old 07-06-2013, 07:55 AM
 
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They are not really comparable. Ireland is a very small country and very globalised. Spain has 10 times the population. I think both Spain and Ireland had a housing bubble and a banking crisis. I think of all the countries with econonic problems Ireland will come out of it faster due to its small size and more adaptable economy. Also Spain was a colonial power whereas Ireland was controlled by Britain.
Ireland has 4 times bigger debt and 3 times smaller population than Greece, how are they going to adapt faster?
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:47 AM
 
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Ireland has 4 times bigger debt and 3 times smaller population than Greece, how are they going to adapt faster?
Ireland's debt is due to the Government backing the banks. The economy was in a surplus before that decision was made. Ireland is also due to return to normal markets this year and exit the bailout. Greece's problems are very different to Ireland.

Euro zone believes deal will see Ireland exit bailout this year - Political News | Irish & International Politics | The Irish Times - Fri, Apr 12, 2013
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Old 07-08-2013, 11:49 AM
 
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Of course, Ireland returns their debt, in Greece and Argentina debt goes to tax havens.
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:42 PM
 
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I have never been to Greece but have a friend in New York who just returned - in his words "Greece is the armpit of Western Europe".

Any truth to it? I don't know
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:42 PM
 
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Calling Spain a second or third (!) country is very inappropriate. I'm just back from vacation in Andalusia, yet again fell in love with the whole area (I have been there 5x times now).
Yes, it tends to be much more chaotic, "run-down" and "polluted" than most Northern or Western European countries and also "poorer" than Catalonia or Madrid, however, it offers all commonplace things the average First-Worlder needs: large "American-style" shopping malls (El Corte Ingles, Carrefour, Eroski etc.), doctors/hospitals, modern infrastructure network, many restaurants (local, ethnic, chain...) and all kinds of institutions. Compared to Southern Italy, Latin America or most of Southeastern Europe, corruption or mafia structures aren't that prevalent. In addition, Andalusia has always been the "2nd world" of Spain with high unemployment rates or poverty levels so its not that surprising that the recent crisis has influenced it heavily.
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:23 PM
 
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I have never been to Greece but have a friend in New York who just returned - in his words "Greece is the armpit of Western Europe".

Any truth to it? I don't know
I wouldn't trust your friend if he says Greece is in Western Europe.
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Seville, Spain
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Spain has the best infrastructure in Europe
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