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Old 07-29-2013, 07:04 AM
 
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This is an interesting list. Bloomberg has ranked 57 countries on their propensity for vice. I'm surprised to see Australia so high (well maybe not).

1. Czech Republic
2. Slovenia
3. Australia
4. Armenia
5. Bulgaria
6. Spain
7. Bosnia and Herzegovina
8. Russia
9. Belarus
10. Greece

The complete list can be viewed here.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...626_vice_1.jpg
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Phew, Denmark is more decadent than we are.

27. Denmark
31. Finland
41. Sweden
46. Norway

The alcohol consumed is very dubious for Finland. That report states 13.10 litres per capita a year, while official statistics from 2012 says 9.6 litres. Finland has never reached 13 litres since 1960 when collection of stats began.
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Vice? What is Vice? A willingness to do something that is disapproved of within the formal and rigid rules of a group of people defining the term "vice" to apply to their own culture.

In modern western society, it is pretty much limited to sex (specifically excluded from this study) and recreational substances, since the movements to stamp out things like dancing and playing cards and driving automobiles and shaving beards and wearing cosmetics have been marginalized..

If you want to live in a country with no Vice, I guess places like Mexico and Thailand are the places to go. No vice there.

Does anybody have any links that might reveal where this information came from, what is its context, and what it purports to show? Oh, wait, I found the link at Google:
http://www.bloomberg.com/slideshow/2...ice-index.html

The methodology is "on the final slide", if anybody can figure out how the hell to get there. There ought to be a world-wide ban on forum links and references to BS "slideshows" like this from all crap publications like Bloomerg and Forbes.

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Old 07-29-2013, 08:39 AM
 
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Vice? What is Vice? A willingness to do something that is disapproved of within the formal and rigid rules of a group of people using the term "vice".

In modern western society, it is pretty much limited to sex (specifically excluded from this study) and recreational substances, since the movements to stamp out things like dancing and playing cards and driving automobiles have been marginalized..

If you want to live in a country with no Vice, I guess places like Mexico and Thailand are the places to go.

Does anybody have any links that might reveal where this information came from, what is its context, and what it purports to show?
I think countries like Mexico and Thailand have a lot more "vice" than the countries listed above them. It just depends on what you call a vice.

Four variables, including total adult per capita alcohol consumption, total adult per capita cigarette consumption, annual prevalence of drug use (a percentage of the population ages 15-64) and total gambling losses as a percentage of GDP , were taken for the analysis.
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:08 AM
 
Location: EU
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What has the title to do with the contents?

The level of drug use or abuse does not automatically result in more or less decadence.
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:23 AM
 
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What has the title to do with the contents?

The level of drug use or abuse does not automatically result in more or less decadence.
Well that's what Bloomberg called the survey The World's most vice prone nations or the The World's Most Decandent Nations.

Decadent means self-indulgent, unrestrained gratification etc. I guess the definition fits the bill.
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Novy Jicin, Czech Republic
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I am proud we are number one Total score 64.5 !!!
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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What has the title to do with the contents?

The level of drug use or abuse does not automatically result in more or less decadence.
Be careful about cause and effect. It could be that drug abuse could be the result of more or less decadence.

Discussion forums (and Bloomberg articles) are built upon the ignorance of the law that, as you correctly but partially state, two events that both occur are not necessarily the cause of one another. And, as they say, ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Given observed events A and B, you have several causative possibilities:

A caused B
B caused A
A and B were both caused by C
A and B's causations were completely independent of each other.
A and/or B did not occur at all, and appear through faulty observation.
A and/or B occurred, but have been misdescribed using currently fashionable loaded buzzwords and platitudes.

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Old 07-30-2013, 01:20 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Well we did start out as a big jail for criminals, so it's hardly a surprise! haha (yes we can poke fun of ourselves).
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Old 07-31-2013, 08:41 PM
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Location: Ontario
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Brazil
Monaco
Russia
USA
Brunei
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