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Old 09-03-2013, 03:20 AM
 
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Since Labor Day has just passed, I thought it would be meaningful to share something regarding...Labor.

I've noticed quite a bit of what I'll describe as Europhilia, displayed by members in CD as well as in other American message boards in general. I always wonder what's the cause of this syndrome of Europhilia,.. is it just a simplistic case of white Americans who still sub-consciously view "Old Europe" (to quote an infamous US Defense Secretary), the continent as their ancestral homeland and as a result nurse some illogical attachment to it? That could be a reason, but one of the main reasons in my opinion, is also lack of knowledge and exposure to the actual subject.

Most of the Americans I have come across who have Europhilia have not actually been there, or have been there on nothing beyond a 17 day vacation.

The difference in productivity between the US and the countries of the sunset continent is startling. The GDP per capita of countries there is so bad (relative to the USA), other than the microstates (which have artificially engineered and disingenuous GDP because of a Mickey Mouse population size and lack of any agriculture whatsoever in their economies ie think Luxembourg, Vatican City, Singapore), the GDP per capita of the trading bloc is on average WORSE than the GDP per capita of the worst performing and notoriously poorest US state - Mississippi.

Here is an article from an economics professor with a most humiliating yet revealing title..

How About Europe Learning from Mississippi?

CARPE DIEM: How About Europe Learning from Mississippi?

This table is amusing. And it also shows Americans where the standing of their economy really is globally and that they can finally stop worshipping the **lls of foreign exotic countries they idealized in their heads. Oh and Canada's production output is in between Michigan that much maligned state because of the decline of the US automobile industry and uhhh New Mexico. While Denmark is between Kentucky and Idaho. LOL.

An interesting thing that jumps out from the data is that the top two countries in terms of GDP in Europe (Luxembourg is a microstate with only 500,000 people and its entire economy for these 500,000 people is almost completely based on acting as a private banking haven), Norway and much further down, Switzerland, are both not in the trading bloc. What does this say about how the trading bloc is working out I wonder...

GDP per Capita: U.S. States vs. Europe, Japan and Canada, 2010


Rank GDP per Capita, 2010
District of Columbia $168,327
Luxembourg $81,383
1 Alaska $70,814
2 Delaware $69,880
3 Wyoming $68,162
4 Connecticut $66,022
5 New York $59,596
6 Massachusetts $58,339
7 New Jersey $55,715
8 Virginia $53,113
9 Colorado $52,205
Norway $52,013
10 California $51,905
11 North Dakota $51,882
12 Minnesota $51,238
13 Maryland $51,224
14 Washington $50,912
15 Illinois $50,581
16 South Dakota $49,741
17 Texas $49,119
18 Nebraska $48,708
19 Hawaii $48,697
20 Oregon $48,590
21 Louisiana $48,068
22 Iowa $46,791
23 Rhode Island $46,688
24 New Hampshire $46,295
25 Nevada $46,136
26 Kansas $44,621
27 North Carolina $44,568
28 Pennsylvania $44,471
29 Wisconsin $43,446
30 Indiana $42,266
31 Georgia $41,720
Switzerland $41,663
32 Utah $41,528
33 Vermont $41,290
34 Ohio $41,240
Netherlands $40,765
35 Missouri $40,515
36 Tennessee $40,239
37 Florida $39,988
38 Arizona $39,910
39 Oklahoma $39,724
Austria $39,634
40 New Mexico $39,475
Canada $39,057
41 Michigan $38,959
42 Maine $38,623
Ireland $38,550
Sweden $38,031

43 Kentucky $37,209
Denmark $36,450
44 Idaho $36,113
Belgium $36,100
Germany $36,033

45 Alabama $36,002
46 Montana $35,895
47 Arkansas $35,161
48 South Carolina $35,034
United Kingdom $34,920
Finland $34,585
France $34,077
Japan $33,805

49 West Virginia $33,738
50 Mississippi $32,764
European Union $32,700
Spain $29,742
Israel $29,531
Italy $29,392
Greece $28,434
Portugal $23,223

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Old 09-03-2013, 03:26 AM
 
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With such dismal horrific productivity, yet the "Old World" continent is the continent that is most renowned for the widespread and extreme adoption of left-wing socialism and welfare,....I really wonder how it intends to ever try to even stay on top of a rising China and the rest of Asia that is as hungry as it is large. At least (1/2 of) the US is still working hard.

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Old 09-03-2013, 06:16 AM
 
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With such dismal horrific productivity, yet the "Old World" continent is the continent that is most renowned for the widespread and extreme adoption of left-wing socialism and welfare,....I really wonder how it intends to ever try to even stay on top of a rising China and the rest of Asia that is as hungry as it is large. At least (1/2 of) the US is still working hard.
Nice Conservative/GOP spin but would love to see the GDP of the US minus military hardware built domestically and internationally (530 BILLION DOLLARS annually for US military alone) subtracted from those numbers since the trickle down effectiveness clearly isn't there for most US citizens who continue to work at 2007 wages six years later, and with over a third of our population without physically/financially catastrophic health insurance coverage.
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Old 09-03-2013, 06:36 AM
 
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Nice Conservative/GOP spin but would love to see the GDP of the US minus military hardware built domestically and internationally (530 BILLION DOLLARS annually for US military alone) subtracted from those numbers since the trickle down effectiveness clearly isn't there for most US citizens who continue to work at 2007 wages six years later, and with over a third of our population without physically/financially catastrophic health insurance coverage.
Can you show us where you got the 1/3 number from?

If you can't it means you are lying. Of course if you are a liberal, that would certainly come with the territory.

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Old 09-03-2013, 06:40 AM
 
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Those GDP per capita numbers are surely wrong. There are numbers on wiki from World Bank, UN, IMF, and the CIA and none of them have such low numbers for European countries.
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Old 09-03-2013, 06:41 AM
 
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Can you show us where you got the 1/3 number from?

If you can't it means you are a liar.

And you clearly have issue with the truth versus propaganda....

Health Insurance Market Left Out 55 Million Americans In 2012, Survey Says
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Old 09-03-2013, 06:43 AM
 
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With such dismal horrific productivity, yet the "Old World" continent is the continent that is most renowned for the widespread and extreme adoption of left-wing socialism and welfare,....I really wonder how it intends to ever try to even stay on top of a rising China and the rest of Asia that is as hungry as it is large. At least (1/2 of) the US is still working hard.
Ironically enough; the top half of those states working harder than Europe, are mostly "blue states" and the bottom half are mostly "Red states". Maybe....just maybe; ideological warfare is completely pointless.
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:02 AM
 
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Ironically enough; the top half of those states working harder than Europe, are mostly "blue states" and the bottom half are mostly "Red states". Maybe....just maybe; ideological warfare is completely pointless.
Shhhh.....it's more fun this way.
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:08 AM
 
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And you clearly have issue with the truth versus propaganda....

Health Insurance Market Left Out 55 Million Americans In 2012, Survey Says
2nd question: How many people live in the United States?
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:16 AM
 
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GDP per Capita: U.S. States vs. Europe, Japan and Canada, 2010


Rank GDP per Capita, 2010
District of Columbia $168,327
Luxembourg $81,383
1 Alaska $70,814
2 Delaware $69,880
3 Wyoming $68,162
4 Connecticut $66,022
5 New York $59,596
6 Massachusetts $58,339
7 New Jersey $55,715
8 Virginia $53,113
9 Colorado $52,205
Norway $52,013
10 California $51,905
11 North Dakota $51,882
12 Minnesota $51,238
13 Maryland $51,224
14 Washington $50,912
15 Illinois $50,581
16 South Dakota $49,741
17 Texas $49,119
18 Nebraska $48,708
19 Hawaii $48,697
20 Oregon $48,590
21 Louisiana $48,068
22 Iowa $46,791
23 Rhode Island $46,688
24 New Hampshire $46,295
25 Nevada $46,136
26 Kansas $44,621
27 North Carolina $44,568
28 Pennsylvania $44,471
29 Wisconsin $43,446
30 Indiana $42,266
31 Georgia $41,720
Switzerland $41,663
32 Utah $41,528
33 Vermont $41,290
34 Ohio $41,240
Netherlands $40,765
35 Missouri $40,515
36 Tennessee $40,239
37 Florida $39,988
38 Arizona $39,910
39 Oklahoma $39,724
Austria $39,634
40 New Mexico $39,475
Canada $39,057
41 Michigan $38,959
42 Maine $38,623
Ireland $38,550
Sweden $38,031

43 Kentucky $37,209
Denmark $36,450
44 Idaho $36,113
Belgium $36,100
Germany $36,033

45 Alabama $36,002
46 Montana $35,895
47 Arkansas $35,161
48 South Carolina $35,034
United Kingdom $34,920
Finland $34,585
France $34,077
Japan $33,805

49 West Virginia $33,738
50 Mississippi $32,764
European Union $32,700
Spain $29,742
Israel $29,531
Italy $29,392
Greece $28,434
Portugal $23,223
I still think that living in Northern Europe is 1.000.000 times better than living in any red state.
I don't care about economy; being surrounded by republicans affects your life.
And not in a good way
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