Was the New Spain really that big? (Picture inside) (land, area)

[joseanto071]

Did it really extend up to parts of British Colombia, Canada? And What??? Venezuela too?

[joseanto071]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../New_Spain.svg

[theunbrainwashed]

Originally Posted by joseanto071

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../New_Spain.svg

This picture is wrong. Spain's empire was bigger than that, encompassing the entire western coast of South America, present day Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, and Chile. Of course Venezuela was colonized by Spain. That's why they speak Spanish today



every color on the map that isn't purple was claimed by Spain. Believe pink is disputed territory or shared. In the case of North America, the pink area was claimed by both Spain and Russia

[joseanto071]

No, I'm not talking about the Spanish Empire, I'm talking about the New Spain. The Spanish Empire was divided by different Viceroyalties. The New Spain, New Granada, Rio de Plata, Peru. etc.

[theunbrainwashed]

Originally Posted by joseanto071

No, I'm not talking about the Spanish Empire, I'm talking about the New Spain. The Spanish Empire was divided by different Viceroyalties. The New Spain, New Granada, Rio de Plata, Peru. etc.

Oh ok. In that case, answer is still yes but the light green was claimed by Russia as well. Believe most people recognized Spain's claims to be in the Vancouver Island and Fraser River Valley. North of that was Russian territory, but Spain also claimed that. They built a settlement in Alaska. Present day Valdez, AK. Doesn't sound very Russian or English, does it?

[joseanto071]

Originally Posted by theunbrainwashed

Oh ok. In that case, answer is still yes but the light green was claimed by Russia as well. Believe most people recognized Spain's claims to be in the Vancouver Island and Fraser River Valley. North of that was Russian territory, but Spain also claimed that. They built a settlement in Alaska. Present day Valdez, AK. Doesn't sound very Russian or English, does it?

Wow yeah it doesn't. I think there's a place in British Colombia called Spanish fork or Spanish valley or something. I also wondered why Montana had a Spanish name.

[joseanto071]

So if you were to combine that map of the Spanish empire with the Portuguese empire, it must've been somewhat big. It was like England that the sun never set there.

[OyCrumbler]

Originally Posted by joseanto071

So if you were to combine that map of the Spanish empire with the Portuguese empire, it must've been somewhat big. It was like England that the sun never set there.

Yea, and then the sun set. On all of them.

[animatedmartian]

Spain never really had much influence too far northward. Most of their land was given to the French who then sold it to the Americans in a short amount of time. The left over land then became an independent Mexico.

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Originally Posted by OyCrumbler

Yea, and then the sun set. On all of them.

But not for much longer.