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Old 01-01-2014, 11:21 PM
 
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In the USA, obviously it is very important as it is in the Constitution. But still, some debate (though not much) revolves around the interpretation of it (born in the US, or born to US citizens?). I remember Schwarzenegger trying to get this changed, being Austrian-born. Also this is discussed a bit too in light of Ted Cruz, being Canadian-born, trying to run in the 2016 US election.

How about other countries? How many think it is OK if an immigrant becomes their president (or equivalent)? Is it ever controversial in other countries?
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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If an immigrant can work hard enough, and has the best interests of my country, and his/her adoptive country at heart, I'd give him a shot at Prime Minister of Canada.
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:37 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Not in Australia. Our current PM, Tony Abbott, was born in England, and our former PM, Julia Gillard, was born in Wales. This is quite unusual in modern times, I'm trying to remember who the last foreign-born PM was. I think it was before Robert Menzies, over 70 years ago.
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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Although they are not the official head of state, Australia has produced many prime ministers who were born in the UK including the last 2, a New Zealander and a Chilean have also become prime minister of Australia.

Of course, the official head of state is the King or Queen of England, so Australia has never actually had a natural born citizen as it's head of state.

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Sorry Postman typing same thing at same time.

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Old 01-01-2014, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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I should note, our last PM who was not Canadian born, was John Turner, England.......and lasted 79 days.
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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Not in Australia. Our current PM, Tony Abbott, was born in England, and our former PM, Julia Gillard, was born in Wales. This is quite unusual in modern times, I'm trying to remember who the last foreign-born PM was. I think it was before Robert Menzies, over 70 years ago.
It was John Gorton I think, he was PM from 1968-1971, born in Wellington NZ according to the national archives.
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Old 01-02-2014, 12:23 AM
 
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Although they are not the official head of state, Australia has produced many prime ministers who were born in the UK including the last 2, a New Zealander and a Chilean have also become prime minister of Australia.

Of course, the official head of state is the King or Queen of England, so Australia has never actually had a natural born citizen as it's head of state.

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Sorry Postman typing same thing at same time.
Interestingly enough though, the constitution doesn't actually refer to any position as head of state. Here's one perspective on it:

AUSTRALIA'S CONSTITUTION: The Governor-General is our head of state (Sir David Smith)
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Old 01-02-2014, 12:42 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Although they are not the official head of state, Australia has produced many prime ministers who were born in the UK including the last 2, a New Zealander and a Chilean have also become prime minister of Australia.

Of course, the official head of state is the King or Queen of England, so Australia has never actually had a natural born citizen as it's head of state.

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Sorry Postman typing same thing at same time.
Yes, although Watson was born in Chile he was of Anglo parentage and wasn't culturally Hispanic. He left at a young age and grew up in New Zealand. It's still an interesting bit of trivia.
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Old 01-02-2014, 12:43 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Speaking of which Western Australia is the only state to has not been the birthplace of a PM, although several have held seats here, most notably John Curtin. Kim Beasly was the most recent West Aussie opposition PM I can think of.
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Old 01-02-2014, 12:48 AM
 
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Yes, although Watson was born in Chile he was of Anglo parentage and wasn't culturally Hispanic. He left at a young age and grew up in New Zealand. It's still an interesting bit of trivia.

Its funny how many of Australia's early politicians seem to have had issues remembering some pretty basic details of their origins. I thought only King O'Malley had that problem, but it seems Chris Watson did too: Chris Watson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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