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Old 01-09-2014, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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I haven't been to Australia, but since my Chinese visa requires I enter and exit every 90 days, I may go ahead and hop a plane down there You have a spare bed, or at least some space on the floor? A balcony?

Seriously though, after having met many Australians working in hospitality, having had one as one of my best friends since high school, and also having dated one briefly, the impression that I got is that Australia takes a lot of the best elements of American society and some of the best elements of European society and combines them at the same time that it extricates some of the more negative elements of both - much like Canada! Before any butthurt homers jump on me, I'm not saying that I think that Australia or Canada copied America at all. More like we share a common heritage as a British imperial colony, and despite the divergent directions we went, there are many similarities in our cultures.

I do love the US and I don't see any point in denying or glossing over that, but the combination of my meager international travel up to this point (England, Scotland, France, Canada, Mexico) and my extensive exposure to people from all over the world as well as my insatiable curiosity for other cultures and governments has certainly led me to be judicious in judging my country. There are huge problems here; there are areas with levels of poverty that are worse than nearly anywhere else in the developed world, though we are still very far from the developing world. You hear arguments from both sides of the American sociopolitical fence that are ill-informed and miss the mark; one is that we are on a visible slide to third world levels (no), and the other being that the developing world is safer, freer, happier, cleaner, and just generally better than we are (no).

I suppose that a big problem with the way that many Americans view themselves is that whenever it comes up in conversation that we aren't "the best" at everything, after some hemming and hawing back and forth, we start comparing our situation to that of developing nations or ones with horrifying human rights records as a defense... something I've never seen someone from continental Europe, or Australia, or Canada do.
Be my guest! We've got a comfy couch, I'm sure my housemates will be cool with it lol.

Hmmm, yes, sort of...culturally we're between the US and UK (with other influences) but physically we resemble the US: low-density housing, sprawling suburbs, car domination, but at least now we're changing, with more of an emphasis on more dense, liveable neighbours, transit and more interesting, human-friendly environments. We have a better welfare system, more of a sense of community, and more balanced economic system than the States, yet are stridently capitalistic at the same time. We weathered the GFC well, unemployment is low, and wages high. The climate is mild, there's plenty of space, and really it's a pretty safe place to live despite what others think.

Yes, the poverty in America does seem more noticeable and worse than here. Plus the crime rate. Many American cities seem rather dull, with only a few stand-outs that are interesting. Downtown Houston has less shopping and foot traffic than small cities in the UK or Europe like Oxford or Verona or Bruges.

Yes, the US is no longer the 'leader' in a sense...the rest of the world is catching up, or exceeding it. When I first arrived in LA I was struck by how 'retro' it seemed, actually, although I kind of liked that.

I'm surprised you haven't been to Asia yet since you seem to talk quite a bit about it.
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Old 01-09-2014, 09:59 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Or fascists

Yes I see it very often.
Yea I dont understand what is wrong with liking your own country. lol.

I'll say things like "Yeah I love it here" "I love this" "I love that"
But people on this forum think I'm some sort of crazy redneck

Yee haw
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Old 01-09-2014, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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Yea I dont understand what is wrong with liking your own country. lol.

I'll say things like "Yeah I love it here" "I love this" "I love that"
But people on this forum think I'm some sort of crazy redneck

Yes haw
^^ Can't even be a proper redneck, much less an American. It's "yee haw!"

You must hate your country! COMMUNIST!!!





Personally, I LOVE, Canada. Love it, love it, love it. Of course, to each their own. If you live here and actually hate it, that's your choice.

Government stinks, though.
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Old 01-09-2014, 10:07 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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^^ Can't even be a proper redneck, much less an American. It's "yee haw!"

You must hate your country! COMMUNIST!!!




Welcome to the life of an iPad owner
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Old 01-09-2014, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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Oh, I know. I'm just teasin' ya, comrade.

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Old 01-09-2014, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Minsk, Belarus
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In Belarus, we have many people like that. But interesting fact is that I see them much more in internet, on different forums, than in real life. Those who are not happy with themselves and can't properly realize their potentials, tend to blame the country, government and so on.
Another thing is that people here usually compare our country only with the West. In movies, they see the Western life, they travel mostly to Europe. hardly anyone compares our country with the ones that are really poor -- and in fact there are many such places in the world, compared to which we live in a Paradise.
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Old 01-10-2014, 02:43 AM
 
Location: Bishkek/Charleston
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I love my country, but i hate our government =/
I sort of feel that way too. Not the goverenment per say, but the people who make the rules and cheat the system while they take away from the average people. Exp: Cut military pay, but give raises to themselves, etc.
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Old 01-10-2014, 02:44 AM
 
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I don't hate my country of birth (India) but there are many things I don't like about it or the people. I hate that they give me a negative reputation wherever I go, purely by association. I also dislike the fact that so many of them are racists who assume that because I look like them, I'm necessarily going to think, act and speak like them.

FWIW, I don't really believe I have a home country anymore. I've picked out all the nice things from my country of birth, my country of residence and various countries I've visited. All I need to do now is create a new country and put those things into practice
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Old 01-10-2014, 02:57 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Guardian readers are a real pain, they seem to want to impose their left wing liberal agenda on everyone and are only happy when moaning about the country they live in. I should imagine that most of the British Post War Intelligence Service traitors were secret Guardian readers.
The funny thing is, I consider myself left of the political spectrum, socially speaking, but those Guardianistas still piss me off.
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Old 01-10-2014, 02:58 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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I'd rather people who are super critical over their country than those who dance around all of its problems or take pride in it as if they did more than just be born in it.

I'm okay with Canada. It could be better, it could be a lot worse too. I think I could get along well in a few other countries, and there's nothing wrong or 'traitor' with that.
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